Timestamp: 3/9/2010 9:02:28 PM    Name: paul  Subject: snirtrun        E-mail: arcticfix@aol.com
TrailReport: how are the snirtrun plans comming along can't wait for it. i'm glad its not on easter weekend

Timestamp: 3/9/2010 7:08:31 AM    Name: Gary  Subject: Trails        E-mail: gary@sno-pals.com
TrailReport: Jon...I would assume BC trails to be is spring conditions. There has been no grooming since Sat eve and it's unlikely that grooming will continue due to the lack of snow on some trails and the daytime temps reaching into the 40's We have started the spring re-conditioning of the Bully which when completed will be fully cleaned and stored for the summer. The Deere will be next. We left that in service as with the rubber tracks we can travel some of the roads and trails easier than with the Bully. We hope you have enjoyed the trails this season and we'll see you back in 10/11

Timestamp: 3/8/2010 11:54:59 AM    Name: jon  Subject: trail conditions        E-mail: jpost@gradientlens.com
TrailReport: Does anyone know the trail conditions? I want to take my son on one last ride for the year but want to know if the trails are shot before i make the 2 hour drive. Thank you

Timestamp: 3/7/2010 7:24:27 PM    Name: Kevin  Subject: Trail Conditions        E-mail: kevin84@frontiernet.net
TrailReport: for up to date and HONEST trail reports and information, you will only get it HERE or on SLEDFREAK.COM..true riders giving true rider reports!!! Thanks Sno-Pals for another great season and smooth runnin'....bring on the SNIRT RUN!!!!!!

Timestamp: 3/6/2010 8:50:21 PM    Name: Gregg Z  Subject: LOST TRUNK BAG        E-mail: greggzahn@gmail.com
TrailReport: I lost my trunk bag on Sat am leaving Barnes Corners lot. Had my tool kit, hat & leather gloves inside. ANY chance someone found it??? Much Appreciated. Gregg 585 230 1150

Timestamp: 3/6/2010 6:51:29 AM    Name: Smooth Operator  Subject: Snowbank Grooming        E-mail: brianpaddle@yahoo.com
TrailReport: Josh, I'm sure that the operator who attempted to straddle and groom parts of the snowbanks on Salmon River Rd between the plow turn around and the single lane bridge over Mad River Thursday night would prefer to remain anonymous. That person must already realize that he possesses "mad skills" and is just thankful that he can give something back to the snowmobiling community. Ride Right, Ride Safe.

Timestamp: 3/5/2010 6:46:15 PM    Name: Josh  Subject: Thanks        E-mail: jdmluther@hotmail.com
TrailReport: Thanks to the operator in the JD last night for making some paths on Salmon River Road sides. It didnt look like an easy task but it was much appreciated

Timestamp: 3/5/2010 8:06:43 AM    Name: Tim Stanka  Subject: Booneville        E-mail: timstanka@bluefrog.com
TrailReport: Does anyone know how the snow conditions are from Highmarket to Booneville ??? What happened to the AbsoluteSnowmobile guy ? This year he posts about once a week which is unusual for him. Thanks

Timestamp: 3/4/2010 9:26:41 PM    Name: nate  Subject: trails        E-mail: ked234@hotmail.com
TrailReport: Thanks Smooth. Our oppertunity is tomorrow and we should be on the trails by 8.

Timestamp: 3/4/2010 1:34:38 PM    Name: Smooth Operator  Subject:  Trail Grooming 3-4-10        E-mail: brianpaddle@yahoo.com
TrailReport: I am not 100% sure, but I believe Vinny M. should have groomed as much of the Copenhagen route as he could depending on snow conditions. The Montague Loops A and B were groomed last night because of warmer temps earlier in the week. Tonight I will be in the John Deere heading to do the Montague Loops A and B. Friday grooming plans look fair but Saturday night doesn't look very promising with day high temps at 42*. Our club plans to groom as long as the weather remains favorable, so everyone should ride whenever the opportunity arises, the snow won't last as long as prior seasons IMO. Ride Right, Ride Safe.

Timestamp: 3/4/2010 12:37:01 PM    Name: nate  Subject: trails        E-mail: ked234@hotmail.com
TrailReport: Is there enough snow to make the Coopenhagen Loop, and if so was it groomed today? Are you guys planning on the Montegue Loop tonight? We are headed up in the morning. Thanks for all the hard work this year!!!

Timestamp: 3/3/2010 10:02:05 PM    Name: JERSEY JOE  Subject: LOOMIS ROAD TRAIL        E-mail: jbelfiore@mercuryinsurance.com
TrailReport: Gary: In reference to the trail off the Loomis Road, I believe that there is a trail but is it strictly private property and I would strongly suggest not crossing any land marked as such.

Timestamp: 3/3/2010 6:11:20 PM    Name: Gary  Subject: BCSP Grooming        E-mail: gary@sno-pals.com
TrailReport: we will groom tonight 3-3-10

Timestamp: 3/3/2010 9:28:34 AM    Name: BillO  Subject: Grooming        E-mail: wso@rochester.rr.com
TrailReport: Will you guys be grooming at night? Temps say 18 Thurs, 19 Fri and 23 Sat. I was thinking of coming there. Thanks.

Timestamp: 3/3/2010 5:02:11 AM    Name: Gary  Subject: Tommy        E-mail: gary@sno-pals.com
TrailReport: Tom...The only thing i can think of is that the map maker inadvertingly put a trail (perhaps a 4 wheeler trail) on the map. I can assure you there is no snowmobile trail off the Loomis Rd Gary

Timestamp: 3/2/2010 3:00:18 PM    Name: matt  Subject: race         E-mail: mwise9@yahoo.com
TrailReport: Thunder In the Valley Vintage & new sleds Snowmobile Ovals Date: MARCH 13TH, 2010 NCA Sportsman’s Club, 11123 County Rd 36 WAYLAND NY 14572 Registration from 8:30AM- 11am Race starts at 12:00 (noon) SHARP Classes will be Single Cylinder, Free Air, fan, Liquid, Mod New sleds 500-600 stock only Tethers are required THIS RACE WILL BE ON SNOW GENERAL RULES: Boots/ Gloves/ Helmet Working brakes Belt must have a guard 50% Pay back, $20 per class arriving after 11am will cost you $50.00 per/class *If you’re not going to be racing there will also be some trails and a big field to ride around in so bring out your VINTAGE sled and put some miles on it. M&M Photography will be there taking pictures Sponsored by Sick Bros the one stop fun shop 585 728 9030 Logie’s Snowmobile Repair 585 382 3340 For more info call M&M Motorsports at 585 519 1931 LOT’S OF BEER POP AND FOOD AT THE BAR HOTELS IF NEED TO STAY http://www.hotels.com/ho125396/days-stop-d...-states/#photos http://logansinn.com/ 11:00 RACER MEETING THEN HOT LAPS FROM 11:15 TILL 11:45 THEN GO RACING

Timestamp: 3/2/2010 9:15:33 AM    Name: tommy  Subject: trail        E-mail: shabro1964@optonline.net
TrailReport: gary if you look on the laminated map follow loomis rd down about half way where it was plowed theres a left that goes to the corner of rt 96 and rt 93 where the big barn was i was just wondering what the deal was with it thanks

Timestamp: 3/2/2010 5:43:54 AM    Name: Gary  Subject: Tommy        E-mail: gary@sno-pals.com
TrailReport: Thanks for the kind words. I'm not aware of any secondery trail going towards Worth. It does not show up on the map that I have. If it's at the end of Loomis it could be the section of CO RT 189 which may be open.

Timestamp: 3/1/2010 11:40:16 PM    Name: tommy  Subject: trails        E-mail: shabro1964@optonline.net
TrailReport: hats off to bc trails again and thanks gary for getting loomis rd !!! looking for some help planing a trip to delaware county from my house in worth this weekend if any one can help shoot me a email and also does the secondary trail off off loomis rd that gos over towards worth still exists ? its on my trail map and saw it would be saturday nite but didnt see any tracks maybe jersey joe knows of it

Timestamp: 3/1/2010 6:23:35 PM    Name: Gary  Subject: Frank        E-mail: gary@sno-pals.com
TrailReport: Frank..We will groom as long as the weather permits and we can groom trails getting out of Barnes Corners. If all the snow is gone around the groomer barn and we have to run in mud to get to more of the remote trails we'll stop. We've already had to miss a couple trips as the temps were still too warm

Timestamp: 3/1/2010 6:12:03 PM    Name: frank  Subject: tails        E-mail: frank@aol.com
TrailReport: well i just wanna thank u guys again, maybe u guys shouldbe teaching these other clubs on how to groom haha,, all they do is complain about fuel cost, if your club can do it theres no reason why they shouldnt be able to as well, if every clubs trails were as good as yours the hill would be an awesome place, but after are expierence it left a sour taste in alot of people, thanks again, im gonna try comin up again this weekened hopefully the other trails are better this time around.. keep up good work guys,, when do u think u will be grooming until another 2-3 weeks if weather permits.

Timestamp: 3/1/2010 5:27:31 PM    Name: Keith  Subject: Grooming        E-mail: kwholling@optonline.net
TrailReport: Thanks BC for grooming on Saturday night. You were the only club out. Valley should have been out. The temps were below freezing. The trails in Vally were terrible. Even Timberview was out on Friday. Thank goodness. I know they get alot of traffic through Valley trails, but theres no excuse. Once again - hats off to BC. At least we were able to ride without a chiropractor on board. I too saw the orange jacket madman!! These kids need to calm down, too much adrenalin & budwiser (not a good combo) I agree with many people. Its a shame but "The Hill" is losing its battle to keep good-safe riders coming back. I saw three sheriffs sitting on Culpepper on Saturday. Hopefully they nailed some of these guys.

Timestamp: 3/1/2010 4:32:49 PM    Name: TERRY SERVISS  Subject: MISC        E-mail: TESMAN55@AOL.COM
TrailReport: Barnes corners is an excellent club,but if your sick of the rest spend the time & money in Northern Maine, just returned, trails groomed every night, wide flat & marked excellent.I will make this a yearly vacation, ride over 1000 miles in 5-6 days and never sore or tired. Look up Camel Brook Cabins in Fort Kent Me ( Jean La Blanc ) outstanding. Added: Rode the 1st 70 miles of 200 for the day & never passed a sled in the 1st 70.

Timestamp: 3/1/2010 4:31:46 PM    Name: TERRY SERVISS  Subject: MISC        E-mail: TESMAN55@AOL.COM
TrailReport: Barnes corners is an excellent club,but if your sick of the rest spend the time & money in Northern Maine, just returned, trails groomed every night, wide flat & marked excellent.I will make this a yearly vacation, ride over 1000 miles in 5-6 days and never sore or tired. Look up Camel Brook Cabins in Fort Kent Me ( Jean La Blanc ) outstanding. Added: Rode the 1st 70 miles of 200 for the day & never passed a sled in the 1st 70.

Timestamp: 3/1/2010 4:29:18 PM    Name: TERRY SERVISS  Subject: MISC        E-mail: TESMAN55@AOL.COM
TrailReport: Barnes corners is an excellent club,but if your sick of the rest spend the time & money in Northern Maine, just returned, trails groomed every night, wide flat & marked excellent.I will make this a yearly vacation, ride over 1000 miles in 5-6 days and never sore or tired. Look up Camel Brook Cabins in Fort Kent Me ( Jean La Blanc ) outstanding. Added: Rode the 1st day 70 miles and never passed another sled.

Timestamp: 3/1/2010 4:26:06 PM    Name: TERRY SERVISS  Subject: MISC        E-mail: TESMAN55@AOL.COM
TrailReport: Barnes corners is an excellent club,but if your sick of the rest spend the time & money in Northern Maine, just returned, trails groomed every night, wide flat & marked excellent.I will make this a yearly vacation, ride over 1000 miles in 5-6 days and never sore or tired. Look up Camel Brook Cabins in Fort Kent Me ( Jean La Blanc ) outstanding.

Timestamp: 3/1/2010 12:18:31 PM    Name: DAVE SEVENTEEN SOUTH  Subject: IDIOT RIDERS        E-mail: WWW.WEBSTERFORD.COM
TrailReport: I WOULD LIKE TO VENT AFTER MY EXPERIECE WITH TWO DIFFERNT RIDERS THIS WEEKEND .FIRST LEAVING TUGHILL INN GUY PASSING ON THE RIGHT CUTTING IN FRONT OF ME AND MY GROUP GETTING NO FARTHER AHEAD BECAUSE OF SLOWER TRAFFIC .NEXT A GUY ON A RED FUSION BRIGHT ORANGE JACKET .THIS IDIOT CAME UP ON ME AT FIFTY MPH SHOVED HIS SKI UP UNDER MY TUNNLE ALMOST WRECKING ME . HAD NO IDEA WHERE HE CAME FROM OR WHAT HE WAS THINKING . SMASHED INTO ME LOOKED AT ME AND TOOK OFF THIS KIND OF RIDING IS WHAT GIVES THE HILL A BAD NAME .THIS HAPPEND BETWEEN TUGGERS AND COPENHAGEN .JUST A WARNING TO SLOWER OR INEXPERIECED RIDERS BE ALERT TO WHATS BEHIND YOU AND YOUR GROUP .I HAVE RODE THE HILL FOR TEN YEARS PLUS AND HAVE NEVER SEEN SUCH A LACK OF RIDING CODE OF ETHICS .MAYBE THESE RIDERS I CAME ACROSS SHOULD READ THESE CODES ON ABSOLUTE SNOWMOBILE .OR HIT A TREE WOULD WORK FOR ME.

Timestamp: 3/1/2010 3:29:24 AM    Name: Smooth Operator  Subject: SNIRT RUN, APRIL 10TH.        E-mail: brianpaddle@yahoo.com
TrailReport: Frank, make sure and come back April 10th for the 7TH Annual Snirt Run, everyone has a good time at this event. Thanks for the compliments,we appreciate that you enjoyed our trails. Ride Right, Ride Safe.

Timestamp: 2/28/2010 2:53:57 PM    Name: frank  Subject: trails        E-mail: frank@aol.com
TrailReport: me and 10 friends were up since thursday- sunday,, overall what a waste of money and time, only good trails on the hill were bc thank u to u guys,, the rest of the hill sucked, i dont get it only saw 2 groomers out over a 4 day spand and i ride at midnight when they groom, very upset

Timestamp: 2/27/2010 10:08:01 PM    Name: Tim Stanka  Subject: BD to Stillwater        E-mail: timstanka@bluefrog.com
TrailReport: Did 188 miles Friday. Barnes Corners to Stillwater and back. Pretty nice ride. Not too many people out. Brantingham area was bad . . more like ATVing through there. I've come to the conclusion that area never gets snow. I took trail 8A back in an effort to avoid Brantingham. I wanted to go to Glenndale and hook up to 5A but got lost after the left hand turn off Eatonville Rd. Can somebody tell me where I screwed up. Is 8A-Glenndale-5A any better than going through Brantingham ???? Riding across Stillwater Res is always fun. Came back on 6 mile road through the woods. Nice trail. All in all a very enjoyable ride.

Timestamp: 2/27/2010 12:07:38 PM    Name: old timer  Subject: roads        E-mail: poggeex@aol.com
TrailReport: As of 10 AM Saturday all the secondary plowed roads were heavily snow covered. Drove up to see old church at New Boston which had 2 fire calls in the last 24 hours. Fire in the rafters. still standing.

Timestamp: 2/27/2010 12:05:12 PM    Name: old timer  Subject: roads        E-mail: poggeex@aol.com
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Timestamp: 2/26/2010 10:19:10 PM    Name: Gary  Subject: ckxn        E-mail: gary@sno-pals.com
TrailReport: only if the temps get below freezing

Timestamp: 2/26/2010 9:03:59 PM    Name: ckxn  Subject: you grooming        E-mail: jdjdjdj@gmail.com
TrailReport: are you guys grooming to night

Timestamp: 2/25/2010 8:53:08 AM    Name: new sleds and vintage Snowmobile Ovals  Subject: new sleds and vintage Snowmobile Ovals        E-mail: mwise9@yahoo.com
TrailReport: Thunder In the Valley Vintage Snowmobile Ovals Date: FEBRUARY 27TH, 2010 NCA Sportsman’s Club, 11123 County Rd 36 WAYLAND NY 14572 Registration from 8:30AM- 10:45am Race starts at 12:00 (noon) SHARP Classes will be Single Cylinder, Free Air, fan, Liquid, Mod New sleds 500-600 stock only NO sno pro sleds Tethers are required THIS RACE WILL BE ON SNOW GENERAL RULES: Boots/ Gloves/ Helmet Working brakes Belt must have a guard 50% Pay back, $10 per class arriving after 10:45am will cost you $50.00 per/class FOR SLEDS 82 AND OLDER *If you’re not going to be racing there will also be some trails and a big field to ride around in so bring out your VINTAGE sled and put some miles on it. M&M Photography will be there taking pictures Sponsored by Sick Bros the one stop fun shop 585 728 9030 Logie’s Snowmobile Repair 585 382 3340 For more info call M&M Motorsports at 585 669 9745 LOT’S OF BEER POP AND FOOD AT THE BAR HOTELS IF NEED TO STAY http://www.hotels.com/ho125396/days-stop-d...-states/#photos http://logansinn.com/ 11:00 RACER MEETING THEN HOT LAPS FROM 11:15 TILL 11:45 THEN GO RACING

Timestamp: 2/25/2010 5:08:25 AM    Name: Gary  Subject: Grooming        E-mail: gary@sno-pals.com
TrailReport: DUE TO CONTINUED TEMPS ABOVE THE FREEZING MARK WE HAVE BEEN UNABLE TO GROOM SINCE MONDAY. IF TEMPS GET BELOW FREEZING WE WILL RETURN TO OUR FULL GROOMING SCHEDULE

Timestamp: 2/24/2010 5:02:54 PM    Name: JERSEY JOE  Subject: LOOMIS ROAD        E-mail: jbelfiore@mercuryinsurance.com
TrailReport: Gary: Thanks for doing the LOOMIS Road. To everyone: there is a guy logging the upper end but with a litle additional snow cover the trail is flat. Just watch out for logging trucks during the day. On another note, the trails were great on Monday and Tuesday going toward Montague. The Pitcher road was unreal as was the Culpepper. Great job BCSP. Don't bother going off the hill toward Branningham until more snow flies, and it will this weekend.

Timestamp: 2/23/2010 7:45:23 PM    Name: Josh  Subject: Whats the weather like        E-mail: jdmluther@hotmail.com
TrailReport: Whats the weather looking like for the weekend? Cant get a good idea on line on snow vs rain. Wanted to ride up through Copenhagen and Carthage if the trails were decent. Thanks

Timestamp: 2/23/2010 4:07:22 AM    Name: Gary  Subject: Tommy        E-mail: gary@sno-pals.com
TrailReport: Nope it's still our trail. Sorry it got away from us for a while. You may not be aware that we have had some groomer issues this year which may have impacted the Loomis Road. You can always contact me at the above email address when ever you have any concerns.

Timestamp: 2/22/2010 3:54:29 PM    Name: tommy  Subject: loomis rd        E-mail: shabro1964@optonline.net
TrailReport: i was wonderimg if they gave that part of the trail systme to another club !!!!!!!! its where us family guys ride in piece !!!!!!!!

Timestamp: 2/21/2010 12:17:26 PM    Name: Bruce Lake  Subject: Loomis Road        E-mail: Blake1993@stny.rr.com
TrailReport: What JerseyJoe said X3!!!!!!!!!!Thanks!Gary!!!!!!!!!!

Timestamp: 2/21/2010 2:34:20 AM    Name: chris  Subject: house for rent        E-mail: rednekchickenfry@aim.com
TrailReport: we have a house for rent right between barnes corners and redfield. 600 a week. Three bedroom, bath, kitchen, living room. call 315-232-9960. ask for keith. taking reservations for next year.

Timestamp: 2/21/2010 12:54:35 AM    Name: Clifton Park GMan  Subject: Presidents Week Trail Conditions        E-mail: brian@telesh.com
TrailReport: My hats off to the majority of the snowmobile clubs on tug hill. We rent a house every year in Williamstown and with the amount of snow it is amazing how well kept the majority of the trails were. Specifically Barnes Corners, Kasoag, TC Riders, Osceola, Redfield were kept up on a regular basis. On the flip side the Plateau Riders trails were horrible and had much more snow to deal with than other clubs to work with. North South Road was a joke all week. The Timberview guys that run this "club" only complain about the fuel costs for their groomers on a wall in their restaurant while the clubs without a restaurant, hotel and dealership do such a poor job. I will not spend anymore money at Timberview. I'd rather support the businesses who support groomed trails. Join clubs that do a good job where you ride and don't support those who don't. Thanks to all the groomers who made our vacation on the hill great.

Timestamp: 2/20/2010 3:58:54 PM    Name: kevin  Subject: jersey joe        E-mail: kbrown21@twcny.rr.com
TrailReport: what jersey joe said x2

Timestamp: 2/20/2010 3:56:14 PM    Name: Gary  Subject: Loomis Rd        E-mail: gary@sno-pals.com
TrailReport: DONE...I'll get it Monday

Timestamp: 2/20/2010 3:19:18 PM    Name: JERSEY JOE  Subject: loomis road        E-mail: jbelfiore@mercuryinsurance.com
TrailReport:  Is it possible to put in a request to groom the Loomis Road soon?

Timestamp: 2/19/2010 8:27:01 PM    Name: chris  Subject: groomer down         E-mail: rednekchickenfry@aim.com
TrailReport: last night i was riding and saw the pisten bully go off s corner. i tried waving the driver down but it was to late. the left track came off. a few hours later and some help from a group of guys from buffalo, we were able to move the track across the trail and have it ready for the groomer to be rolling again. Thanks to the guys who stopped and helped. I saw the groomer was back rolling around 11:30ish headinh out back of montague. Hats off guys. love the trails and hope to become an operator within the next year.

Timestamp: 2/18/2010 6:37:13 PM    Name: JON  Subject: RACE         E-mail: mwise4141@yahoo.com
TrailReport: Thunder In the Valley Vintage Snowmobile Ovals Date: FEBRUARY 27TH, 2010 NCA Sportsman’s Club, 11123 County Rd 36 WAYLAND NY 14572 Registration from 9:30AM- 10:45am Race starts at 12:00 (noon) SHARP Classes will be Single Cylinder, Free Air, fan, Liquid, Mod Tethers are required THIS RACE WILL BE ON SNOW GENERAL RULES: Boots/ Gloves/ Helmet Working brakes Belt must have a guard 50% Pay back, $10 per class arriving after 10:45am will cost you $50.00 per/class FOR SLEDS 82 AND OLDER *If you’re not going to be racing there will also be some trails and a big field to ride around in so bring out your VINTAGE sled and put some miles on it. M&M Photography will be there taking pictures Sponsored by Sick Bros the one stop fun shop 585 728 9030 Logie’s Snowmobile Repair 585 382 3340 For more info call M&M Motorsports at 585 669 9745 LOT’S OF BEER POP AND FOOD AT THE BAR HOTELS IF NEED TO STAY http://www.hotels.com/ho125396/days-stop-d...-states/#photos http://logansinn.com/ 11:00 RACER MEETING THEN HOT LAPS FROM 11:15 TILL 11:45 THEN GO RACING

Timestamp: 2/18/2010 5:36:59 PM    Name: kelly  Subject: Great Riding 02/17/10        E-mail: mxz600@twcny.rr.com
TrailReport: We road Happy Vally,Koasog and PBSC Groomed Trails on Wed. They were great.Thanks to the groomers once again. Ate at Koasog Inn. Food and service was also great. New employees and better service from now on.

Timestamp: 2/17/2010 7:11:03 PM    Name: Cat Girl  Subject: Trails        E-mail: catgirl@yahoo.com
TrailReport: I rode on Monday and the trails were outstanding. We left from Redfield, went down through West Lyden to Booneville, up through Constableville to Highmarket, and back down to Redfield. Some of the best riding we have ever done in the area, and we ride there every weekend. I would say maybe 10 miles of the trails we rode were in rough condition, and I am probably overestimating on that. Yes, the plowed roads needs some snow for sure but all in all we couldn't have asked for better. Can't wait to get up there this weekend!! Happy Riding!

Timestamp: 2/17/2010 5:08:02 PM    Name: Tim Stanka  Subject: Trail Conditions For Scott        E-mail: timstanka@bluefrog.com
TrailReport: Scott, I rode 164 miles last Friday. One of the best rides ever. The trails had enough snow. However, the plowed roads were nasty. Doen to dirt in some places. In some cases you can ride on the shoulder. I would think a ride to Stillwater via Brantingham would be nasty because of the plowed roads but I did not go there.

Timestamp: 2/17/2010 3:26:32 PM    Name: Lucas  Subject: Salmon River Road        E-mail: Diamondrev33@hotmail.com
TrailReport: Hello. First of all my hat goes off to the BCSP, the trails have been superb all year. YOU ROCK! Also glad to see the Piston Bully back in action. Back to my question, does anyone know how the Salmon River Road is? Last weekend it was like a dust storm. I know the side is ridable but was wondering if there was any snow coverage on the road. Thanks Again for any intel.

Timestamp: 2/17/2010 9:22:18 AM    Name: Gary  Subject: Scott        E-mail: gary@sno-pals.com
TrailReport: Trails are generally in good condition. Could use more snow but we continue to groom daily

Timestamp: 2/16/2010 10:34:50 PM    Name: scott  Subject: trails?        E-mail: andersons031106@hotmail.com
TrailReport: Overall how are the trails, and how much snow is there. I am trying to plan a week to come up and ride agian, but from the bits and pieces I'm reading I'm not sure if its worth it. We like to ride 2 to 3 hundred miles a day for 4 or 5 days straight to make the trip worth it because we drive 6 hours to get there. I need your take on how the lower towns are such as booneville and west lyden and how the trails to stillwater and such are, as we like to go different directions each day. When I was up in december the riding on the hill was ok but I dont want to ride the same 100 miles over and over. Is there snow in copenhagen and points north this time and what is the overall outlook. Any info would be appreciated. Thanks in advance to all who respond and to those of you who volunteer your time so families like mine can enjoy the ride.

Timestamp: 2/16/2010 6:53:07 PM    Name: Dave  Subject: Grist mill        E-mail: mxz600@twcny.rr.com
TrailReport: Hi! Does anybody know how the trails are heading out of the grist mill going towards happy valley? Thank you...

Timestamp: 2/15/2010 4:39:00 AM    Name: gary  Subject: Brian        E-mail: gary@snopals.com
TrailReport: Brian..We continue to groom daily and expect this week to be busy.The trails to Copenhagen and the loop that takes you over near Carthage and back into Tug Hill seems to always be good and less traveled. Have a good ride

Timestamp: 2/14/2010 9:58:11 PM    Name: Brian  Subject: Driving Up        E-mail: dont want spam@email.com
TrailReport: Hey guys, Thanks for posting the conditions, and thanks to the BCSP for a great job. Last year at this time (third week in February) was my first year to "The Hill" and it was an amazing experience. We are plannig to come up again on Tuesday/Wednesday and stay for a few days. We will have two kids with us, and are looking for areas that will have the least amount of traffic for safety reasons. Any ideas? We ride out of the Worth area. Hopefully there will be some new snow this week, but it doesn't look good. Thanks again!

Timestamp: 2/14/2010 7:31:42 PM    Name: saber 7   Subject: trails        E-mail: goydich125@gmail.com
TrailReport: And for the guy who told me to stay home,well you know what i mean!

Timestamp: 2/14/2010 7:28:46 PM    Name: saber 7  Subject: trails        E-mail: goydich125@gmail.com
TrailReport: Trails were great for what was there. rode 250 miles friday and saturday.bare in spots but better than nothing. midnight last night passed 6 groomers,trails were mint>keep up the good work!!!!!

Timestamp: 2/14/2010 12:24:44 PM    Name: Shawn Baxter   Subject: Whitney Point trails        E-mail: ALBAXTER75@HOTMAIL.COM
TrailReport: The trails here in Whitney point area are very thin.We don't have but only 6" of snow in the good spots.Going out myself today just because I haven't riden at all this year.Hopefully we will get some measurable snow very soon.Would love to go north tomorrow(Presidents day).

Timestamp: 2/12/2010 3:25:03 PM    Name: Chuck  Subject: trails        E-mail: cvanburen1@twcny.rr.com
TrailReport: Smooth operator just got back from a awsome ride thanks to you and the other dedicated operators! WE NEED SNOW! Thanks for all you do! Stay Right!

Timestamp: 2/12/2010 3:20:56 PM    Name: Chuck  Subject: Trails        E-mail: cvanburen1@twcny.rr.com
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Timestamp: 2/12/2010 9:57:41 AM    Name: Smooth Operator  Subject: Trail Report 2-11-10        E-mail: brianpaddle@yahoo.com
TrailReport: To answer any ones question, yes we are still grooming and yes there is plenty of snow that can be ridden. The guys are still sticking to the schedule as long as the temps remain below freezing, but we have not received any "new" snow over the last week. Yesterday Vinnie M. and Donnie D. groomed the Copenhagen Trails,(not all the way to Rte 12, due to the lack of snow). Last night Orley L. and myself groomed the Montague Loops "A" and "B". The trail behind Tuggers (Dougs Drive) has a ice/dirt base as does some of the inside corners on the Mile Strip Rd. The main Corridor trail "C5" needed the most attention and the cold temps (-9*) and the traffic last night wasn't making for good snow packing conditions. Riding on the snowbanks down the plowed section of Salmon River Rd is your best option, although a slow bumpy option. With next weeks vacationers and the lack of snow I really hope everyone keeps an open mind and tries to make the best of things. Ride Right, Ride Safe.

Timestamp: 2/12/2010 4:57:53 AM    Name: gary  Subject: saber700        E-mail: gary@snopals.com
TrailReport: we are still grooming as shown in our groomer schedule

Timestamp: 2/11/2010 9:18:49 PM    Name: saber 700  Subject: trails?        E-mail: goydich125@gmail.com
TrailReport: What trails are rideable? and whos groomin?

Timestamp: 2/11/2010 4:56:04 PM    Name: Gary  Subject: Snow        E-mail: airblair7c@live.com
TrailReport: This lack of snow is getting ridiculous and frustrating with no measurable amounts in the forecast for the next 10 days. The snowmobile season will be over before we know it. So far, this Winter hasn't been a typical one for us. Hopefully we will experience some good snowfalls before Spring comes!

Timestamp: 2/11/2010 10:41:26 AM    Name: Workerbee  Subject: Tails        E-mail: workerbeedoes@live.com
TrailReport: Rode Monday, from the Gris Mill, to Altmar to Redfeild and over to the Cheese Factory for lunch. I should have stayed home. The trails were good in some areas but terrible in others. With no snow all week they will be really ruff. What I was trying to figure out is if Whitney Point, NY trails ore open and any good, Tryed to ride Tully trails yesterday thinking "further south, snow?" They don't have enough snow either.

Timestamp: 2/10/2010 5:00:37 PM    Name: Pete Laflame  Subject: riding        E-mail: ridersx@adelphia.net
TrailReport: Stay Home the trails are terriable someone needs to tell the gromers to leave the garage and grome.

Timestamp: 2/10/2010 4:08:34 PM    Name: Dave  Subject: trails        E-mail: mxz600@twcny.rr.com
TrailReport: Did 102 miles today... Best trails were ''sno-pals'' and TC riders trails-both freshly groomed!!!!!! Thank you!!! Worst of the day was Salmon river road [bare] can ride bank most of the way-very bumpy-and trails heading from Little John to Redfield-Lack of snow -nothing to groom.... All said the trail conditions are good considering the lack of snow.

Timestamp: 2/10/2010 3:38:38 AM    Name: NYFF395  Subject: Trails        E-mail: dbartel1@rochester.rr.com
TrailReport: Thumbs up on the trails..... Nice job, keep up the good work.

Timestamp: 2/9/2010 9:50:50 PM    Name: pete goydich  Subject: trails        E-mail: goydich 125@gmail.com
TrailReport:  hello everyone! comin up this weekend where should we ride.?

Timestamp: 2/8/2010 7:36:45 PM    Name: JT  Subject: Trails        E-mail: jtroise81@gmail.com
TrailReport: We rode about 75 miles Sunday morning. Trails were awesome. BCSP's rule. Thank you for everything you do. We were off trails by lunch time. Early riders get better trail conditions plain and simple. I was almost tagged by an oncoming sled while riding on Mile Strip Rd, heading towards Creekside. There are a couple of icy corners there. Please be careful. This is the second time this year some i was almost hit by some idiot, in the same corner. There is no need to be riding that fast just leaving the parking lot. As far as Park Police are concrened, watch out they also have radar guns. Not sure if they are carrying decibel meters. Thanks again groomer operators, you guys are awesome. Stay Safe!!!! Ride Right!!!

Timestamp: 2/8/2010 6:00:13 PM    Name: Sean  Subject: conditions        E-mail: sbonnice@yahoo.com
TrailReport: I agree the clubs are doing a very good job considering what they are working with and who there dealing with for funding. I want to come up this week for a day ride. Is redfield worth riding out of or should i travel further north? i rode out from redfield last thursday and was not awful but i have no idea what a week of riding could of done to the area

Timestamp: 2/8/2010 9:30:34 AM    Name: Craig  Subject: Trail Conditions        E-mail: actrippany@yahoo.com
TrailReport: I want to let everyone that has anything to do with the grooming of trails in the Barnes Corners area, that they are doing a great job with the trails, My son and I drove up from Batavia N.Y. where we can only wish for conditions like we saw. We put on 110 miles on Saturday 2/6/10 and found the trails in very good condition for what you have to work with. Yes later in the day the trails were becoming rough with all the heavy traffic, but that is to be expected when riding. Did see a few sleds going as fast as they could which causes the trails to get ripped up. Other than that it was a great day! Thanks to all involved with the hard work of keeping the trails in the condition they are in GREAT JOB!!!

Timestamp: 2/6/2010 6:35:07 PM    Name: Shane  Subject: Trails/Police        E-mail: tughillhunter1@yahoo.com
TrailReport: Here's the deal with the trails, the warm up basically killed the trails. They are all ice underneath and the new snow we have received has been powder, which is awesome to play in when it is fresh, but it doesn't make a good base for the trails. The clubs are grooming nightly but because of the poor snow quality and icy base it does not take long for the moguls to appear and the corners to get icy. With the lack of snow in other areas people are flocking to the hill so the traffic is very heavy and the trails just don't last. I live local and ride almost every weeknight and the weekends, if you want smooth trails you need to ride late night or very early in the morning after the groomers have been out and before the traffic gets heavy. Once you head off of the top of the hill to the lower elevations (Turin, Copenhagen, Redfield, etc.) the snow is very thin and there are many bare spots, you can hear your carbides striking rocks. The clubs are doing what they can with what they have to work with. We need a good blast of snow that has some moisture to it so it can rebuild a decent base and the trails will last. Too bad the storm that hit down south didn't stray up our way. As far as the park police, snowmobiles fall under the parks and recreation department, that is why you only see them in the winter on the hill.

Timestamp: 2/6/2010 1:04:44 PM    Name: Chuck  Subject: trail        E-mail: cvanburen1@twcny.rr.com
TrailReport: Rode yesterday and the Sno-Pals trails were excelent as always! Thanks to everyone at Sno-Pals! But the traffic was heavy and alot of people doing dumb stuff like passing on hills and speeds out of control! Please everyone STAY RIGHT and Slow Down!I just want everyone to go home safe!! Happy riding!

Timestamp: 2/6/2010 11:15:23 AM    Name: Steve  Subject: Trail conditions        E-mail: sjgorgen2@aol.com
TrailReport: Rode over a 100 miles yesterday..The trails were like glass all over the hill, the bcsp have done a oustanding job. Towards the end of the ride they were getting a little rough, but that will happen when the traffic picks up. Had a nice ride. Can someone answer a question for me ? Me and my family and freinds have rode the hill for 30 years, my sole purpose is to go smowmobiling when i'm there. Why is the park police on the hill ? I was stopped yesterday and was given a ticket for modified exhuast..By the park police ? I do not have a modified exhuast...Do not understand there are people up there no reg, no insurance, and there sole purpose is to see how many beers they can drink... I will fight the ticket.. Thanks bcsp for the nice trails..

Timestamp: 2/6/2010 8:17:38 AM    Name: What's the real scoop?  Subject: Trail Conditions        E-mail: OMG SERIOUSLY
TrailReport: Thanks for the trail conditions!! That's all we are looking for!!

Timestamp: 2/6/2010 7:56:16 AM    Name: BC Member  Subject: Back To Trail Conditions        E-mail: nothanks
TrailReport: Hey... Just a thought, but I figured I get us all back on the right track and post a TRAIL REPORT... Rode last night from Copenhagen, to West Lowville area over to Montague down to Lyons Falls and back around through BC to Copenhagen. From Doyles to Timberview the trails were very good. Yes there are places where it is a little choppy, but if you need a perfectly flat ride, I suggest a motorcycle. South of Timberview forget it. It is passable but from some of the comments I have seen lately, it wouldn't be worth your time. I rode late and the groomers were out. I don't know what the trails are going to be like by mid-day Saturday. I think everyone at Barnes Corners is doing an excellent job. They defenitely have more snow than anyone else to work with, but with that comes more traffic. Keep up the great work Sno-Pals and you will continue to get my membership money each year. -Eric

Timestamp: 2/5/2010 11:54:21 PM    Name: rippem  Subject: conditions        E-mail: devilinside32@hotmail.com
TrailReport: yup... that's exactly why sleds are so tech/suspension/capable/powerful so you can putt along at 40 making every mogul seem a chore, and complain from out-of-town that the trails weren't mint the 6 hours in a week you were here... the only ignorance in the posts I've reviewed is you not understanding how the low-snow season, the thaw, the quality of the snow that has fallen recently, and the traffic effect the ability to groom a trail that will hold up for more than a few hours and now for a trail report, how's this: clubs are doing what they can with light fluffy reconstituted snow and little base after a recent thaw. You get what you get, as a groom only holds up a few hours with the only snow -high traffic- seen recently, even during the week. don't get your panties wadded because I choose to be capable, adaptable, and have fun with it instead of COMPLAINING. Not being part of the "entitlement" population, I feel any ride is better than no ride at all. You? I live here, understand snow, and what my club is up against trying to make you happy. I kinda like the thought that me coming the other way well in control, on my side of the trail, having a better time and ride quality at 50-60 scares you...but go ahead, call out the law until no one rides...including you.

Timestamp: 2/5/2010 10:02:35 PM    Name: chris  Subject: trails        E-mail: chirs@aol.com
TrailReport: how the trails looking,,, the faster you go over the bumps the less ya feel, ride fast ahahhaha

Timestamp: 2/5/2010 7:02:12 PM    Name: What's the real scoop?  Subject: Trail Conditions        E-mail: OMG SERIOUSLY
TrailReport: For a bunch of men you all bicker back and forth WAY too much for any real information to filter to those of us who actually visit this website to get information regarding the trails!

Timestamp: 2/5/2010 6:43:37 PM    Name: Dave   Subject: Trails        E-mail: 555ddd6
TrailReport: rippem. I posted a polite response to a nice note gary left me. I don't like being attacked by you. I tried to ask if I could help period. As far as you go complaining about the police and liking to ride bumps and being proud of your 50 - 60 +++ ability. Your the reason the cops need to be there. Read your post and you will know why some of us think more cops should be there. This is my last post here ever beause I can't stand ignorance if only by some. As far as email goes I don't use it. Sorry for thying to help.

Timestamp: 2/5/2010 4:29:28 PM    Name: rippem  Subject: trails        E-mail: devilinside32@hotmail.com
TrailReport: Dave, get off the case already. It's been explained to you. Lack of the quality of snow that stays in when groomed, a base that got all but eliminated in the thaw, AND heavier than usual weekday traffic. It's not rocket science to understand this. There is a reason groomers for the most part aren't out in the hieght of the day up here! "Beating"? if your 60 and riding a 700lb Yamaha then maybe you should avoid the Hill (ride at home or switch brands) as the conditions of late would not be kind to either factor. I'm 45 and ride a well shocked and dialed in Rev and have no complaints considering what there is to work with as of late. Put down 360 miles Mon night thru Wed. I got a couple sore muscle groups, but also hadn't ridden in 10 days. I don't prefer heavy moguls (don't even feel the small stuff), but it's snowmobiling in a high traffic zone w/chit snow to work with right now, it's a FUN workout at worst, and excuses me from aerobics the next morning! Lastly, why are you the only one on the page w/a BS email address showing on your posts? Lastly, your $ sure won't hurt BCSP right now, but won't buy mother nature and provide glass trails anyday or time-of-day YOU want them!

Timestamp: 2/5/2010 3:03:28 PM    Name: Dave  Subject: Trails        E-mail: d5ddd5
TrailReport: Gary thanks for the response. I understand the traffic is very heavy with the hill being the only place with any amount of snow. I myself don't enjoy 2-3-4 foot moguls like some of the other posters on the site. I can't take the beating anymore. My point was only with the trails being so bad on wed. night is there anything anyone can do to help the Sno Pals with grooming. Do you need more money or volunteers???? If so please let people know and there may be a way we can help. Looking forward to smooth trails and lots of riding in the season to come. Thanks Dave

Timestamp: 2/4/2010 10:56:05 PM    Name: Just me  Subject: Trail Conditions        E-mail: lpparts@yahoo.com
TrailReport: I rode 335 miles over the weekend then we did another 100+ miles Wednesday night and I thought the Wednesday night trails were the most fun trails we'd been on all year. 1'-2' mogals with a nice rhythm to them. I'm not 25 anymore so I'm not a big fan of big mogals, but the stuff we were riding was fun. The groomers were out on the way back, so those there was something for everyone I guess. Considering The Hill is about the only place with any snow I think the trails are in EXCELLENT shape.

Timestamp: 2/4/2010 9:57:02 PM    Name: Gary  Subject: reply        E-mail: gary@snopals.com
TrailReport: Dave..Groomers are out everyday. In fact they went out on the 3rd at 9:30 pm and returned at 3:15am in an attempt to keep the trails flat. The traffic this week has been extremely heavy and the light fluffy snow which came Sunday is nrarly impossible to work with. It just does not hold up. Bear with us, once it warams a bit or we get more snow the trails should be up to the standards you desire.

Timestamp: 2/4/2010 6:29:04 PM    Name: JZO  Subject: SMOOTH TRAILS        E-mail: jonyon@twcny.rr.com
TrailReport: Wednesday afternoon wife and I rode 100 miles over trails groomed by SNO-PALS, Valley and Missing Link and the Trails had been in grerat shape. The areas that had been ruff was due to the lack of "SNOW". With the lack of snow this season the clubs are doing a outstanding job.

Timestamp: 2/3/2010 9:59:20 PM    Name: rippem  Subject: trails        E-mail: devilinside32@hotmail.com
TrailReport: I don't know where you were, but we did 142 miles today! from Rodman up thru BC across down to C-ville back up thru highmarket, down to West Leyden, back thru the hill to BC to Rodman about 6P. Groomed and loose this morning...this fluffy snow of late with little base gets pushed up into moguls in NO TIME AT ALL. Rough on the way back across but then again our sleds are SET UP and can comfortably run 50-60++ in that 1-2' trash AND keep right. All in all a great ride today, a little of everything. Valley? grooming Flat Rock at 6. LEO out on sleds roving...hassling more like it spun around and pulled over the 40 MPH caboose in our group just to check reggie and paper. This is getting rediculous! While cans are everywhere, noticed more today than any day so far. There was quite a bit of traffic for a Wed.

Timestamp: 2/3/2010 9:47:22 PM    Name: Dave  Subject: BC Trails        E-mail: ddd555
TrailReport: Just came off the hill. Adams up to severn by nine in fair to good condition. Main trail from BC toward Montague through to Cullpepper TERRIBLE. Looked like they had not been groomed this year. Tried to go out Rector road from Mont. and it was just as bad. Turned around and ate at Mont. and headed home. I guess I don't understand with the groomers and the snow why the trails are that bad. We rode last Fri. Sat. and Sunday and watched the steady decline in conditions. I know there is traffic but I would think the trails could be put back in shape during the week. With groomers and snow what is missing? Money for fuel or volunteers to run the groomers. I would be glad to volunteer and help if that is the problem. Does anyone know??? Not bashing the Snow Pals but the trails are basically not ridable tonight.

Timestamp: 2/3/2010 9:45:24 PM    Name: Dave  Subject: BC Trails        E-mail: ddd555
TrailReport: Just came off the hill. Adams up to severn by nine in fair to good condition. Main trail from BC toward Montague through to Cullpepper TRRRIBLE. Looked like they had not been groomed this year. Tried to go out Rector road from Mont. and it was just as bad. Turned around and ate at Mont. and headed home. I guess I don't understand with the groomers and the snow why the trails are that bad. We rode last Fri. Sat. and Sunday and watched the steady decline in conditions. I know there is traffic but I would think the trails could be put back in shape during the week. With groomers and snow what is missing? Money for fuel or volunteers to run the groomers. I would be glad to volunteer and help if that is the problem. Does anyone know??? Not bashing the Snow Pals but the trails are basically not ridable tonight.

Timestamp: 2/3/2010 8:46:09 PM    Name: Chris  Subject: grooming        E-mail: ctakacs@worcester.edu
TrailReport: Obviously we all know BCSP trails are perfect, just wanted to update the sledders coming from the lower areas... BOONVILLE was groomed 100% last night. Trails are in GOOD condition, despite the lack of snow in the past few days. I talked to the guy who actually GROOMED, (from Adirondack Sport Shop) so this isn't HERE-SAY. There is NO snirt as of last night and a foot of snow in the village. Once up to c-ville, snow pack begins increases greatly. See you on the hill on friday!

Timestamp: 2/3/2010 6:43:44 PM    Name: Michelle  Subject: Trails        E-mail: mgettys@comcast.net
TrailReport: Trails on the hill have excellent coverage, trails in Brantingham has little snow cover, roads are pretty much bare. BC trails were in excellent condition.

Timestamp: 2/3/2010 6:27:07 PM    Name: Brian  Subject: report        E-mail: XskidooP@yahoo.com
TrailReport: How are the trails? Plan on coming up tommorow, Is there good coverage in Brantingham? How about up to copenhagen?

Timestamp: 2/3/2010 12:38:19 PM    Name: jeff  Subject: do the actual groomers post anymore?        E-mail: jeffkirkby@hughes.net
TrailReport: I like Paul too. But can someone update the trail conditons?

Timestamp: 2/3/2010 11:53:38 AM    Name: Gary  Subject: Webcam2        E-mail: airblair7c@live.com
TrailReport: Paul, Fantastic job with webcam2. It is greatly appreciated! Thanks you

Timestamp: 2/3/2010 8:17:36 AM    Name: Paul  Subject: webcam2        E-mail: paul@northernchateau.com
TrailReport: Thanks John it was nice meeting you as well. I will be out with Northernchateau's Webcam2 this weekend (maybe Friday afternoon if I can get off work). Not sure where I will be but, like last weekend I will be moving around to different trails.

Timestamp: 2/2/2010 10:23:33 PM    Name: john  Subject: Met Paul on Sunday        E-mail: jv240z@roadrunner.com
TrailReport: Had the pleasure of meeting and talking with Paul when I reached Flat Rock Rd. and Pitcher intersection. Saw his SUV with the camera perched on the roof. Told him that I watch his web cam more than regular tv, especially before coming up to the hill!!! Nice guy, as I imagined that he would be. How many people do you know who would travel around the hill with a web cam with his vehicle for hours so that we can enjoy the sights. Hats of to "the Man"

Timestamp: 2/2/2010 6:12:08 PM    Name: tommy  Subject: trails        E-mail: shabro1964@optonline.net
TrailReport: theres a olds state trail at the end of bice that you can take to thomason rd and from there its a short road ride to 7x9's or wart rd or worth rd what ever you call it that takes you to the hill or adams loop via loomis rd maps a little different then the real thing (gps works best in that area)and if you want bice can talk you to little john and hit samon river trail from there or go the other way and hit that place where the trails are GREAT !!! i live on town line rd in worth and can do about 120 miles on bc trails and Boylston trails with out dealing with throtle jockys just ride right !

Timestamp: 2/2/2010 5:41:58 PM    Name: Mark  Subject: Where to drop        E-mail: mwing145@aol.com
TrailReport: Where is a good place to drop to ride the Adams Loop. I have parked at Winona and rode Tucker Rd to Bice Rd and then lost the trail?? Is there a long stretch of riding the road sides? I have a map but hard to follow... Need some help here. Thanks

Timestamp: 2/2/2010 3:06:56 PM    Name: Dave  Subject: funny you say that        E-mail: mxz600@twcny.rr.com
TrailReport: That last post made me laugh... I read the question about Winona forest yesterday and did not answer it for the same reason... !!!!!

Timestamp: 2/2/2010 2:43:55 PM    Name: tommy  Subject: trails        E-mail: shabro1964@optonline.net
TrailReport: SHHH! THROTLE JOCKYS DON'T KNOW ABOUT WINONIA STATE FOREST YET ITS THE ONLY PLACE YOU CAN RIDE WITH OUT RISKING YOUR LIFE !!!!!

Timestamp: 2/1/2010 7:03:03 PM    Name: Derrick  Subject: snow        E-mail: dkfrancis@verizon.net
TrailReport: How much snow is in winonia forest....and how much snow is on the ground in pulaski? By the looks of things this could possibily be one of the better presidents day week's we have had in awhile

Timestamp: 2/1/2010 6:49:42 PM    Name: Chris  Subject: Lyons falls        E-mail: ctakacs@worcester.edu
TrailReport: After these next few days, there will be plenty of snow everywhere...IM staying in Boonville this Friday night where they have the LEAST amount of snow. However, they have been grooming down there and conditions are fine. I wouldn't worry about it.

Timestamp: 2/1/2010 2:37:24 PM    Name: scott blesy  Subject: place to stay        E-mail: sblesy@verizon.com
TrailReport: thinking of coming up early next week. any good places to stay in barnes corners area? usually stay in the edge motel in lyons falls, however from what i have read, the snow seems to be a little thin there.

Timestamp: 2/1/2010 12:52:35 PM    Name: smasher8383  Subject: trails        E-mail: smasher8383@yahoo.com
TrailReport: great trails saw the bully out friday when at camp.(mcdonald and truck trail).got up thursday at night to find the front door kicked in. just took about 10 dollars in change.they got the neighbor too.but other then that trails where great even redfield.friday to sunday morning 320 miles and counting.1535 for the year and only up 4 times.keep up the good work bcsp. (<:

Timestamp: 1/31/2010 9:55:48 PM    Name: Chad  Subject: Tom        E-mail: cramsey34@yahoo.com
TrailReport: Don't go anywhere near Pulaski! Trails suck,due to no snow. Unless of course you enjoy riding the open frozen fields and bare roads

Timestamp: 1/31/2010 8:37:28 PM    Name: dan  Subject: another great ride        E-mail: dan@apgarconstruction.com
TrailReport: just got home from a great few days at tug. got up there early afternoon on thursday, went right up to BC area and found awesome trails even for the entire night and we rode until 11pm or so. friday, BC trails were smooth, we went out and did the adams loop and even though it hadn't been groomed, the condition of the trail was awesome. fresh snow and not a lot of sleds had been out that far since the last snowfall on wed/thur. My only gripe with the adams loop out there is the bare pavement riding you have to do to continue on the loop. too bad there isn't a way to go wide out behind all those properties on that road and link back up where the plows stop where you make the right hand turn. other than that. we found awesome trails up until about 1pm on saturday, then the BC area had taken a beating but nothing more than big studder bumps. not huge rollers. You guys do a great job and I always have nothing but huge thanks for all the hard work the BCSP crew does to make their trails top notch even when you were down a groomer.

Timestamp: 1/31/2010 7:09:14 PM    Name: Dave  Subject: food        E-mail: mxz600@twcny.rr.com
TrailReport: One last thing- Had lunch at the Montague inn ... Some of the best wings I ever had....

Timestamp: 1/31/2010 7:07:46 PM    Name: Dave  Subject: trails        E-mail: mxz600@twcny.rr.com
TrailReport: To answer my own question from yesterday about camp 4 trail.......... Rode it today... Awesome!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! 100 or so miles on the hill today-8 out 10 trail conditions... GREAT JOB groomers!!!!!!!!!! Thank you.. Dave

Timestamp: 1/31/2010 5:41:31 PM    Name: Smooth Operator  Subject: Derrick        E-mail: brianpaddle@yahoo.com
TrailReport: The snow pole is an honest depth located at a very secret location somewhere on Tug Hill. The new snowfall races up the pole than settles back down after a couple days to get an estimated base depth. As I reported before the snow banks on Salmon River Rd are below average height and can easily be driven on if you choose not to ride on the plowed road. I also would suggest to ride whenever the opportunity should arise. If you pass up every chance to ride the next thing you know the season is over, if you have a good time than you'll likely be more willing to take a chance in the future. Ride Right, Ride Safe.

Timestamp: 1/31/2010 5:38:07 PM    Name: Chris  Subject: Absolute        E-mail: ctakacs@worcester.edu
TrailReport: The ONLY reason I look on absolutesnowmobile.com is because of the live webcams... Magnum (absoulte dude) lessens the amount of snow ont he hill to cover his ass... There has been times his reports say 2 feet on the hill, when there has been upwards of 4 feet. Its quite annoying acutally. NEVER go by his judgement of snow depths. Another funny thig is, HE DOESN"T EVEN RIDE THE TRAILS! All he does is do drive bys and reports by "other sources". scroll down his reports page for this season, you dont see ONE instance where he posts pictures, like he has in the past...his credibility is in the shitter as far as im concerned..I just look at the webcams. good day.

Timestamp: 1/31/2010 4:29:57 PM    Name: Derrick  Subject: Trail Conditions        E-mail: dkfrancis@verizon.net
TrailReport: I was just wondering what the current base is? When i go to absolutesnowmobile.com it says there is 10-16" of snow on the ground. Then i look at the stick and its at 3' is that drifted up to the stick....we are suppose to be coming up the week monday before presidents day week....Hope the snow keeps flying...is salmon river road in pretty good shape.

Timestamp: 1/31/2010 12:09:30 PM    Name: Smooth Operator  Subject: TRAIL REPORT -1-30-10        E-mail: brianpaddle@yahoo.com
TrailReport: Good news all around. The Pisten Bully is back in action, and was chewing up moguls and laying down a ribbon like trail. Thursday night I groomed 12"-16" of new snow completing the Montague Loops "A" and "B" in the John Deere. Friday night, with the return of the Pisten Bully, the Brimmer boys groomed the Montague Loops and saw frigid temps down to -26*. Bone chilling temps on Saturday didn't keep many at home as all the businesses were packed with sledders trying to get warm. Saturday night myself and Heath combined our forces and went to work cutting moguls and bank corners that were made by the heavy traffic during the day. This Montague Loop had hard packed snow with a decent base, although the trail behind Tuggers and parts of Mile Strip Rd are already showing some dirt/ice sections. I met the Redfield groomer at the Mad River Gates and also the sleds are riding the banks for most of the plowed sections of SRR. If we can get some more snow during the next couple weeks than we would be better prepared for the President's week vacation. Drive Right, Ride Safe.

Timestamp: 1/30/2010 11:50:50 PM    Name: Tom  Subject: Trails        E-mail: teamkawasaki@yahoo.com
TrailReport: Unloaded on Smith Rd.. Rode to Timberview, the Gorge, Flat Rock, Montague, Sportsmen, Barrows, High Market, and looped around a bit and back to Smith Rd.. Trails were all fair to rough. Corners are icy, snow is lose, turns can be rough and sketchy. I was satisfied for not having snow in awhile and traffic was high. Sheriffs were all over also. The old railbed trail was good condition, montague are was good, around Flat Rock/Timberview was fair/rough. Hope that helps.

Timestamp: 1/30/2010 9:33:35 PM    Name: tom  Subject: trails        E-mail: racer1957@verizon.net
TrailReport: i was thinking of coming up on sunday but i don't know the how trails are with so much talk about stud's , any way is pulaski ok place to unload and go? or should we wait to mid week

Timestamp: 1/30/2010 9:26:01 PM    Name: Dave  Subject: Camp 4 trail        E-mail: mxz600@twcny.rr.com
TrailReport: Does anybody know the conditions of camp 4 trail heading from Redfield towards the sportsman????Thinking about heading that way on Sunday. Thank you!!!

Timestamp: 1/30/2010 8:57:58 PM    Name: trails   Subject: trails        E-mail: mwise9@yahoo.com
TrailReport: AMAN WOULD LIKE TO KNOW HOW THE TRAILS R NOT what people think about studs

Timestamp: 1/30/2010 7:01:25 PM    Name: steve   Subject: trail report         E-mail: scarpenter8@rochester.rr.com
TrailReport: Is this site for trail conditions ? Because i cant find anyone on this site thats talking about the TRAILS...

Timestamp: 1/30/2010 2:15:32 PM    Name: CHUCK  Subject: Trail report        E-mail: cvanburen1@twcny.rr.com
TrailReport: How about a trail report?? Anybody riding? or just studding their Tracks.

Timestamp: 1/30/2010 1:42:08 PM    Name: Gary  Subject: Studs        E-mail: airblair7c@live.com
TrailReport: Studs are great in some instances but I have never studded a track in my 20+ years of riding. When you stud a track, power is taken away from the track because of the weight and the digging in. Also, as Scott mentioned, you are putting holes in the track and weakening it to a point. I really don't like the way they dig up the bed on my trailer, either. Just my thoughts.......... Thank you

Timestamp: 1/30/2010 1:35:40 PM    Name: trail rider  Subject: studs        E-mail: anon@mac.com
TrailReport: I know the benefits of studs... BUT..... TOO many throttle jockey's just use them to strip out corners..... dig out road banks and spray riders behind them !!!! Every goose on throttle leaves a big pile behind them.... So.... as a respectful rider and one that wishes Everyone would be considerate of our trails and the people who will ride behind them. I say NO to studs.... be safe out there ! enjoy the ride !

Timestamp: 1/30/2010 10:41:26 AM    Name: scott  Subject: studs        E-mail: andersons031106@hotmail.com
TrailReport: Personally, I have never ran studs on any of my machines until last year when I purchased a newer touring sled for my wife and daughter. I have been riding snowmobiles for 28 years with an average of 2000 miles a season the last 10 years. In all those years there is only once that I feel I would have seriously benefited from studs. 4 years ago the wife and I came upon a rather steep downhill with a fairly sharp turn at the bottom. Fortunately the hill wasn't more than a 100 yards or so, because do to the position it, the sun would warm it all afternoon long and then it turned to ice at night. I managed to slide both sleds down the hill with a lot of luck and managed to muscle them around the turn to safety. There was no way I could have got back up though. The other guys in our group were studded and had no trouble at all. I still ride these days without studs but the wife prefers them for the added safety in these situation.I personally feel that the added wear on the track that studs cause is not worth it for me, but to each there own. I have over 8000 miles on my current track it is still in good shape. Most people Ride with have to replace there tracks every 3000 to 5000 mile depending on the amount of studs they run. Remember for every stud you put in thats 1 more hole in your track, and for every hole you put in it weakens the overall strenght of it that much more. Again this is just my personnal opinion.

Timestamp: 1/30/2010 9:53:32 AM    Name: Bill  Subject: Cams        E-mail: bill5799@yahoo.com
TrailReport: Paul.GREAT JOB on the new cam and weather set up !!!!!

Timestamp: 1/29/2010 9:39:55 PM    Name: JT  Subject: Studs        E-mail: jtroise81@gmail.com
TrailReport: Nick, Its simple. If you do a lot of deep powder riding dont waste your money on studs. However, if you trail ride, stud your track. As I mentioned before, it WILL HELP you a great deal when stopping or cornering, in icy conditions. Last thing you want to happen is have that long track get sideways in a tight corner, with oncoming traffic. It also gets more power to the ground on hard pack or lake ice. If your worried about damaging your trailer, get an old track or piece of conveyor belt and screw it to trailer decking. This will also allow a studded machine to walk up a tilt bed trailer rather effortlessly. STAY SAFE!! RIDE RIGHT!!!

Timestamp: 1/29/2010 9:23:38 PM    Name: long ago rider  Subject: studs        E-mail: poggeex@aol.com
TrailReport: studs may stop you, but if the ice is hard enough they're only like nails on a black board. Besides if they stop you quick enough, the guy behind you's going to rear end you anyway... they're also a bit** when you pick them up in your wheeler tires later on. picked up 17 of them walking from Gardners to the truck trail one spring. at least on lakes they sink.

Timestamp: 1/29/2010 5:45:07 PM    Name: JERSEY JOE  Subject: STUDS        E-mail: JBELFIORE@MERCURYINSURANCE.COM
TrailReport: On the subject of studding a track. It's a must for lake running. On gromed trails they don't help at all EXCEPT when you hit that ice in the corners. My sleds are not studded and I do just fine. They make a mess of garage floors and trailers, not to mention the extra handling needed when working on the sled. Also when you cross one of the many steel deck bridges on the hill I can almost guarantee that you rip one out of the track.In the end it comes down to person choice, like everything else. IMHO not worth the $$$ or time UNLESS you do a lot of lake running

Timestamp: 1/29/2010 12:14:35 PM    Name: nick  Subject: studs        E-mail: nhnatiw@twcny.rr.com
TrailReport: studs theory r alot like a cars headlights dont over drive them!if you cant stop with out um safely r goin to fast...studs r fine for some things but hard acceleration thru a corner??????sounds dangerouse to me..throttle jockeys get hurt..typically riders that drive under the proper allowance of conditions dont wreck ,except tryin to drive you over accelerators sleds as well as our own..

Timestamp: 1/29/2010 8:03:35 AM    Name: jim  Subject: trails        E-mail: jsmith@aol.com
TrailReport: are u guys grooming again.. how r the trails

Timestamp: 1/28/2010 9:04:15 PM    Name: JT  Subject: Studded        E-mail: jtroise81@gmail.com
TrailReport: I ride a 1200 4tec. I couldn't imagine riding with out studs. Definately helps with stopping and cornering. Not only that but, its a great way to more traction under hard acceleration on hard pac. Stay Safe!!! Ride Right!!!!

Timestamp: 1/28/2010 7:38:19 PM    Name: crossfirekev  Subject: studded        E-mail: cudakev@hotmail.com
TrailReport: Every sled I owned is studded. In my opinion is that studding is the cheapest insurance for stopping. I seen 4 snowmobile accidents over the past 12 years and all of them was because they could stop on ice or the sled came around on them. If they would have had studs these wouldn't have happened. Again t is my opinion. Good luck

Timestamp: 1/28/2010 7:32:01 PM    Name: nick-dragon-switchback  Subject: studed vs non studed         E-mail: nickesford@hotmail.com
TrailReport: just baugth a new 2010 dragon switchback 136 inch track i havent studed it yet if thier is ice with a little snow on it stopping is hard but if im just trail ridding i can stop just fine i had an 05 vector with studs and could stop just fine. I DONT KNOW WHAT TO DO!!!!! studding my trck is a bit pricey

Timestamp: 1/28/2010 5:56:21 PM    Name: jim  Subject: trails        E-mail: jsmith@aol.com
TrailReport: hey wanna come up this weekened gimme an idea, are you guys or other clubs gona be grooming tonight and this weekend,,, does anyone know if thers enough snow to leave from ridgeview thanks guys

Timestamp: 1/28/2010 10:59:44 AM    Name: Haigskid  Subject: trail report        E-mail: sdbabikian@gmail.com
TrailReport: Rode some of the bar loop last nite from loui`s to flat rock & back. Trails were a little rough but overall not bad. A couple spots with wash outs and some thin spots. Definitely need snow. If you go I reccomend caution, the rough spots come up quick and the trails a hard as concrete.

Timestamp: 1/28/2010 9:13:33 AM    Name: drew  Subject: i need to ride        E-mail: www.chevyspece434@aol.com
TrailReport: is there alot of snow up there i need to ride

Timestamp: 1/26/2010 9:38:44 PM    Name: toad  Subject: grooming        E-mail: toad@gmail.com
TrailReport: Paul, I figure whats left of your icy base should be flat. Hope the other areas on the hill run their groomers before the bumps freeze. flat ice is better. looks like plenty of snow for lube will fall.

Timestamp: 1/26/2010 8:09:10 PM    Name: Jackie  Subject: trip        E-mail: artsalibi@verizon.net
TrailReport: Considering taking a trip up there this Wednesday night, Will it be worth the trip or not enough snow and cold weather yet? Would like to ride Thursday and Friday.

Timestamp: 1/24/2010 9:00:16 AM    Name: Smooth Operator  Subject: Weather & Trails.        E-mail: brianpaddle@yahoo.com
TrailReport: Although we have not received any new snow,we have been able to groom all our trails per our revised schedule over the last week. The John Deere has run admirably and will continue too thanks to good operators and regular planned maintenance. Due to below average snowfall, while we have snow on our trails, at best "it's marginal". It appears that we are going to have a two day warming spell with heavy rains and wind gusts near 30 mph. Obviously that's bad. The good news is it looks as if we will have winter like conditions immediately after this "hic-cup". Hopefully we will be blessed with significant accumulations, have the Pisten Bully back and have things all set for a pleasurable ride for everyone. Ride Right, Ride Safe.

Timestamp: 1/23/2010 10:12:37 PM    Name: Jeff  Subject: Bully        E-mail: jjbath@yahoo.com
TrailReport: You wouldn't even know that you are down a groomer as the trails were in excellent shape during the week when I was up. I passed the JD on Worth road Friday.

Timestamp: 1/23/2010 8:35:28 PM    Name: Derrick  Subject: Snow        E-mail: dkfrancis@verizon.net
TrailReport: With this rain that they are calling for can the trails withstand this last warm up....Has anyone seen the long range forecast? Will we be getting any snow...we are suppose to come up president's day week...doesnt look good

Timestamp: 1/23/2010 7:20:37 PM    Name: Gary  Subject: Bully        E-mail: gary@sno-pals.com
TrailReport: Status of Bully...engine came in Friday am. We expect to have it back in service on Wed 1/27 weather permitting

Timestamp: 1/23/2010 7:18:19 PM    Name: Skip  Subject: Trails        E-mail: floyd.hurlburtjr@us.army.mil
TrailReport: any updates???

Timestamp: 1/23/2010 7:17:28 PM    Name: Skip  Subject: Trails        E-mail: floyd.hurlburtjr@us.army.mil
TrailReport:  

Timestamp: 1/22/2010 12:55:07 PM    Name: bailey  Subject: TRAIL CONDITIONS FOR RIDING SATURDAY        E-mail: bhamil@ridgeviewtel.us
TrailReport: Could you tell me if the trails will be groomed tonight and what the condition of the trails are? Would love to ride on the hill this Saturday.

Timestamp: 1/22/2010 10:09:09 AM    Name: chris  Subject: trails        E-mail: rednekchickenfry@aim.com
TrailReport: wasnt going to go riding but im going to go tomorrow based on the trails reports and web cams. The web cams show a lot of people out riding today buit id the trais are groomed im going. last weekend osceola boylston trails were horrible. few open waster holes heading towards reservour inn. Dont know the status on those trails now. Thanks and good job SP. see you on the trails

Timestamp: 1/21/2010 10:42:35 PM    Name: Jeff  Subject: Pisten Bully        E-mail: jjbath@yahoo.com
TrailReport: Whats the status on the Bully?

Timestamp: 1/21/2010 9:16:45 PM    Name: Smooth Operator  Subject: Trail Report 1-21-10        E-mail: brianpaddle@yahoo.com
TrailReport: Today Vinnie M. groomed the trails from Barnes Corners to Copenhagen. I was told that you can ride most of the snowbanks along the plowed section of Corey Rd but I saw that the plowed road is bare from the Pinkney Town Barn on Cty Rte 194, until you cross State Rte 177 and get to the parking lot across from Louies. This section is not that long (maybe 400 yds) but it is bare. Tonight Tim M. left around 5:00 pm to groom the Montague Loops "A" and "B". Around 7:30 pm I stopped at Tug Hill Inn and Tim was having some dinner, Tim said that the trails were in need of grooming and he could tell that the trails have had a lot of traffic. From the amount of sleds that I saw at Tuggers, Montague and Tug Hill Inn tonight I would say that there is still plenty of decent rideable snow. There was still snow/ice coverage on Salmon River Rd from Sears Pond Rd to Tug Hill Inn, but I am not sure how it is further up going toward the groomed trail to Redfield. Ride Right, Ride Safe.

Timestamp: 1/21/2010 2:28:33 PM    Name: ME  Subject: TRAIL REPORT        E-mail: mask@yohao.com
TrailReport: TRAIL REPORT FOR TODAY WANT TO COME UP FRIDAY

Timestamp: 1/20/2010 2:17:40 PM    Name: Smooth Operator  Subject: To Jeff.        E-mail: brianpaddle@yahoo.com
TrailReport: Expect lots of Law Enforcement and some "Snirty" trails.

Timestamp: 1/19/2010 8:35:43 PM    Name: Jeff  Subject: Trail conditions        E-mail: jjbath@yahoo.com
TrailReport: I'm heading up tomorrow morning. What should I expect to find for trail conditions?

Timestamp: 1/18/2010 1:47:56 PM    Name: Chris  Subject: TRAILS        E-mail: ctakacs@worcester.edu
TrailReport: Rode Friday-Sunday. Trails on Friday were awesome. A bit "snirty" heading from Boonville, up past C-ville. PLENTY of snow though. Friday night groomers were out doing their thing. Corners banked though, down to ice on inside. Saturday trails were good in the morning and WHOOOOOOPED by the afternoon..Coming down off the hill into C-ville was a SNIRT FEST! All the way to boonville. Still plenty of snow on the trails, but everyhting was SOFT!!! Saturday night went back out and weere greeted with VIRGIN trails all the way to White lake from boonville. THis week temps look favorable, however no big snows..we need snow bad... The TOP of the hill has PLENTYYYYYYY of snow. Just need to groom the trails so they set up at night. Im sure boonville and points south after sunday were a no go. I am not headed back up until they get another blast...

Timestamp: 1/18/2010 9:35:55 AM    Name: Gary  Subject: Snow        E-mail: airblair7c@live.com
TrailReport: We need snow and we need it bad and this week isn't looking good according to the forecast. Some of the trails are getting pretty thin especially in the corners.

Timestamp: 1/17/2010 9:58:16 PM    Name: PAUL  Subject: trails        E-mail: arcticfix@aol.com
TrailReport: are they grooming in and around cider pines

Timestamp: 1/17/2010 6:47:15 PM    Name: Jackie  Subject: trip        E-mail: artsalibi@verizon.net
TrailReport: Coming up tomorrow. Not a good idea???

Timestamp: 1/17/2010 3:40:47 PM    Name: Kevin  Subject: membership        E-mail: kevin84@frontiernet.net
TrailReport: I have been a member of BCSP for many years..this is the first year I joined through the NY website for registration..because I did not receive my renewal app. or newsletter in the mail. Also I di not receive a new membership card or decal this year. What's up with that? The card doesn't mean much but the decal does show support of the club..especially on a new sled without one. Also..one more thing..was up this weekend, trails were great considering what we have to work with. Keep up the good work. Thank-You!!

Timestamp: 1/17/2010 11:46:58 AM    Name: dont come up   Subject: trails         E-mail: mask@yohao.com
TrailReport: stay home we need more snow

Timestamp: 1/17/2010 10:06:59 AM    Name: Derrick  Subject: Riding conditions        E-mail: dkfrancis@verizon.net
TrailReport: I was just wondering what the riding conditions were going to be like for the up coming week we are suppose to be coming up wed. through sunday of this week. Or should we wait another week and hope for some fresh snow....we actually stay south of the hill in pulaski anyone have any advice thanks

Timestamp: 1/17/2010 8:15:33 AM    Name: Bill  Subject: GPS Maps        E-mail: bill5799@yahoo.com
TrailReport: Thanks for the info Gman. Will give them a try on my Garmin eTrex Legend HCX

Timestamp: 1/16/2010 9:00:29 PM    Name: bailey  Subject: HATS OFF TO THE GROOMERS        E-mail: bhamil@ridgeviewtel.us
TrailReport: My husband and i spent another great day on the hill thanks to the groomers that spend so many hours making this a great sport that we love. We spend every weekend up there and want yous to know how much the long hours you people spend on the trails is appreciated. They were a little mealy today but not because of the groomers it is because of Mother Nature warming the temps. We just need a little snow and more cold temps. THANKS AGAIN,

Timestamp: 1/16/2010 6:17:08 PM    Name: JERSEY JOE  Subject: trails        E-mail: JBELFIORE@MERCURYINSURANCE.COM
TrailReport: Getting a little bumpy. They need to be groomed soon. Plowed roads are gettig thin also. We need some fresh snow soon.

Timestamp: 1/16/2010 2:17:56 PM    Name: ME   Subject: TRAILS        E-mail: TRILS
TrailReport: HOW OR THE TRAILS TODAY DO THEY HAVE ALOT OF BUMPS WILL IT BE GROOMED TONIGHT?

Timestamp: 1/16/2010 1:36:21 PM    Name: Clifton Park GMan  Subject: Red Pine GPS Maps        E-mail: brian@telesh.com
TrailReport: I have been using the Red Pine Maps since last year. I started trying their free ones and then bought the full ones. The are very accurate and updated. I was happily surprised that they even provided me a 2010 update for free this year.

Timestamp: 1/16/2010 10:15:56 AM    Name: carlGoodhines  Subject: safety check sticker        E-mail: carlgoodhines@yahoo.com
TrailReport: Tommy, the idea of a "safety check" sticker was quickly abandoned, because, if you read later into your own post, alcohol is a big problem with snowmobiling when mixed with excessive speed. People were showing their paperwork, getting the sticker, then getting drunk to the bejesus because they knew they were going to get waved through. I wish they'd have everybody take their helmet off and blow into the straw at every checkpoint!

Timestamp: 1/16/2010 9:54:00 AM    Name: Bill  Subject: GPS Maps        E-mail: bill5799@yahoo.com
TrailReport: Has anyone used the (Red Pine NYS Trail Maps) with their GPS unit. If so how would you rate them?? Thanks for any info on this.

Timestamp: 1/15/2010 6:36:18 PM    Name: Gary  Subject: Speed Limits        E-mail: airblair7c@live.com
TrailReport: JERSEY JOE - You could be right on the $$$ thing. I know that you support the law enforcement effort and being safe. Hopefully we can all ride safely, no matter what the speed limits are. I know that the truck trail is really rough in the non-winter months, so maybe that is why it is posted at 25 MPH.

Timestamp: 1/15/2010 4:57:33 PM    Name: MATT  Subject: SNOW        E-mail: mwise9@yahoo.com
TrailReport: WILL YOU BE GROOMING SUNDAY NIGHT IF NOT 40 OUT. FOR A GOOD RIDE ON MONDAY YOU GUYS DO A GOOD JOB THANKS THANKS THANKS AND THANKS

Timestamp: 1/15/2010 12:05:02 PM    Name: Smooth Operator  Subject: TRAIL REPORT 1-15-10        E-mail: brianpaddle@yahoo.com
TrailReport: Last night I left the groomer barn at 6:00 p.m.(temp 30*)to groom the Montague Loops "A" and "B" and returned at 1:00 a.m. (temp 35*). The trail behind Tuggers, (Dougs Drive) has snow coverage but has become Snirt like in color and quality. Most other trails had decent cover and groomed up pretty nicely, especially as you get farther up from B.C. I was warned by a snowmobiler that a car was on Olin Rd and have been told that V.S.T. club had dealt with them. Culpepper and Pitcher Rd and the Tom Saywer Trail held up good since the last time groomed on Tuesday. Sled traffic was heavier than the past two Thursday nights, maybe due to the warming weather. I beat the Redfield club to the Mad River Gates so I'm not sure if they were out and as I all ready stated Valley Snow Travelers were grooming last night. Remember the temps need to be around freezing or colder for us to put down a nice sheet-like finish. Hopefully mother nature will be kind to us, we really need more snow to build on our marginal base. Ride Right, Ride Safe.

Timestamp: 1/15/2010 10:34:05 AM    Name: MATT  Subject: TRAIL REPORT        E-mail: mwise9@yahoo.com
TrailReport: CAN WE GET SOME TRAIL REPORTS NOT SPEED REPORTS THANKS WANT TO COME UP MONDAY IF THERE IS SNOW STILL

Timestamp: 1/15/2010 10:02:06 AM    Name: chris  Subject: car on olin trail        E-mail: rednek
TrailReport: there was a car stuck at the bottom of the north bound lane on olin road. CAUTION DONT KNOW IF ITS MOVED OR NOT. >>>>>CAUTION<<<<<<

Timestamp: 1/15/2010 10:00:43 AM    Name: chris  Subject: law enforcement        E-mail: rednekchickenfry
TrailReport: i agree with joe. The law enforcement is getting rediculous. I am a local and just riding from my house to bc i get stopped at a check point at least four times. They need to back off. Yes people are crazy on sleds but people are crazy in cars. Go put a check point on the road some where. Back off the hill.

Timestamp: 1/15/2010 9:27:07 AM    Name: JERSEY JOE  Subject: SPEED LIMITS        E-mail: JBELFIORE@MERCURYINSURANCE.COM
TrailReport: Gary: NOT A PROBLEM. We are all after the same thing which is safe sledding for all. WE are thankful that BCSP has created and is maintaining such a wonderful trail system. My group and I support Law enforcemnt and want them to continue getting unfit riders off the trails. I was just pointing out that many of us here think that their motivation is $$$ not safety.

Timestamp: 1/14/2010 9:50:38 PM    Name: kevin  Subject: 25 mph        E-mail: kbrown21@twcny.rr.com
TrailReport: have you ever driven the truck trails in the summer?if you did you would understand why they are posted the speed they are.rocks big enough to take out your oil pan if you're going faster then 25.now that there is snow and a new surface put down just about every nightthe speed limit should reflect that and be the same as every other road or trail that is groomed.the leo's are just taking advantage of a law that reflects summer time usage. it should be signed with 2 diffrent speed limits,one summer[25 mph],one winter[55 mph]

Timestamp: 1/14/2010 7:53:21 PM    Name: tom  Subject: speed        E-mail: tradka66@yahoo.com
TrailReport: I was up riding yesterday. i came upon number nine rd going from talbots corner to highmarket. i seen a state forest sign saying 25 mph. i rode 30 it was so hard to ride that slow i thought that was 55. normally i ride 35 to 40 mph. so im kind of confused on what trail are 55 and what are not. coming back up in a couple of weeks for a overnighter and want to ride bc trails. but am worried about tickets.

Timestamp: 1/14/2010 7:42:49 PM    Name: pa mike  Subject: car on trail        E-mail: ruby2@epix.net
TrailReport: Be careful there is a car on ohlin rd trail right down at the bottom of the hill from pitcher.

Timestamp: 1/14/2010 6:48:44 PM    Name: Gary  Subject: Speed Limits        E-mail: airblair7c@live.com
TrailReport: JERSEY JOE.........I didn't mean to be rude and ignorant but all I am saying is that law enforcement is on Tug Hill for a reason. Could you imagine if they weren't there? More accidents and more deaths, plain and simple. They are there not only to enforce, but to deter. I guess if you have a complaint about them having too many checks and stopping speeders, then you should approach them and tell them what you think.

Timestamp: 1/14/2010 6:41:18 PM    Name: JT  Subject: Paul        E-mail: jtroise81@gmail.com
TrailReport: Paul, Just wanted to say hello. Havent seen you since last year. My wife and I went riding last weekend and the trails were awesome as always. We will be riding again this weekend. Maybe we will stop bye and say hello if your around.

Timestamp: 1/14/2010 10:16:53 AM    Name: tommy  Subject: cops        E-mail: shabro1964@optonline.net
TrailReport: what ever happened to the safty check sticker you were to get the first time you get paper checked so you get waved threw stops ??? i have been ridng on the hill for 20 years and i would say alcohol is the problem on the hill not excessive speed every accident i have ever rolled up on with someone who got hurt or killed they were drunk ! i ride the hill with my kid on the back of my sled and take my life in my hands every weekend because of out of control riders if radar keeps them away or stops checks i am all for it and i will take my tickets for speeding like a man as long as when i go to the creekside to get gas or the flat rock i don't have to make sure my life insurence is paid up !!!!!! remember i don't care how fast JUST STAY RIGHT !!!!! ps bc trails are the flattest thats why we speed on them !!!

Timestamp: 1/14/2010 9:58:07 AM    Name: Smooth Operator  Subject: Sort of Report?        E-mail: brianpaddle@yahoo.com
TrailReport: All of the Copenhagen trails should be getting groomed this morning by Vinnie M. Tonight, as long as the temps remain below 32* I will be grooming the Montague Loops "A" and "B". except for Flat Rock Rd and Olin Rd which is being done by Valley Snow Travelers. I will post a more detailed Trail Report tomorrow morning after getting the kids to school. Ride Right, Ride Safe.

Timestamp: 1/14/2010 8:49:17 AM    Name: trail rider  Subject: trails        E-mail: me@mac.com
TrailReport: I agree with all the frustrations. The police are getting out of hand !! BUT... I'd really like to hear a True trail report.... Good Riding everyone !

Timestamp: 1/14/2010 8:40:26 AM    Name: JERSEY JOE  Subject: SPEED LIMITS        E-mail: JBELFIORE@MERCURYINSURANCE.COM
TrailReport: Paul: you know who I am. I have been riding on Tug Hill since 1975 long before most folks here were even riding sleds. Guess what? I have never crashed or got any tickets because generally we obey the laws. If you want to label me as a " SPEEDER " for going 45 on the Horace trail then I guess I am. I defy anyone here to claim that they can ride any of the conservation trails posted at 25MPH. I believe these signs were meant for summer traffic not sleds, however tickets are being written for sledders going 35 to 45. This is way wrong and it was my original point. Gary's response was rude and ignorant. Also I am getting tired of having to stop 3 or 4 times a weekend to produce my registration and insurance card to show to 4 different law enforcement groups. I would be willing to bet that a lot of folks agree but are afraid to express this here.

Timestamp: 1/14/2010 7:00:06 AM    Name: Paul  Subject: Speed Limits        E-mail: paul@northernchateau.com
TrailReport: NEWS FLASH, that sign has been on the east end of Horace Forward Truck Trail for as long as I can remember. I beleive of you look around Tug Hill on some of the other "Seasonal Roads" that are used as snowmobile trails, you will find the same thing. Not sure who puts them up, the town, county or DEC, but it is not a new thing. Now before I get jumped on I am not saying I agree with them, just stating that they existed on the trails before this year.

Timestamp: 1/14/2010 4:47:17 AM    Name: Bruce Lake  Subject: Speed Limit        E-mail: Blake1993@stny.rr.com
TrailReport: I agree with Jersey Joe, I have been riding the hill & specifically the Horace Forward TT since 1984 & I never knew it was 25 mph! I NEVER have gone this speed on that trail! The law is getting a little ridiculous! I know the state is broke but, I'm not going to bail them out of the hole! I will be avoiding that trail as much as possible!

Timestamp: 1/13/2010 11:41:07 PM    Name: JERSEY JOE  Subject: SPEED LIMITS        E-mail: JBELFIORE@MERCURYINSURANCE.COM
TrailReport: Speed limits are fine. The 25 mph is unrealistic and you know it.

Timestamp: 1/13/2010 5:54:43 PM    Name: Gary  Subject: Speed Limits        E-mail: airblair7c@live.com
TrailReport: Speed limits are there for a reason. It is called SAFETY! People are killed because of excessive speed. As far as harrassment by law enforcement by stopping sleds and conducting check points, give me a break. They are there to ensure that people obey the rules and that everyone is safe. If you don't like the speed limits and being checked by law enforcement then go someplace else to snowmobile because we want Tug Hill and the surrounding areas to be safe!

Timestamp: 1/13/2010 5:26:44 PM    Name: JERSEYJOE  Subject: SPEED LIMITS        E-mail: JBELFIORE@MERCURYINSURANCE.COM
TrailReport: I would like to know how it is possible in this day and age to operate a modern snowmobile on a trail like the conservation trail ( Horace Forward ) at 25 mph. I defy anyone to do this and not get run over. Seriously this is striclty a ploy to create revenue and I defy any reasonable person to argue otherwise. Why are the clubs sitting still for this unreasonable situation? Also roadblocks to check documents as frequently as is being done is harassment at best. You can bet if it was done to all motor vehicles that someone would point out that there is no probable cause to stop a sledder 3 or 4 times in a weekend to check documents. Other than that the Sno Pals are doing a fantastic job on the trails

Timestamp: 1/11/2010 11:07:44 PM    Name: Dan  Subject: Maps        E-mail: anon@anonymous.com
TrailReport: Go here. these are the best out there. http://www.redpinemapping.com/ Excellent support, and answer emails promptly. The maps are kept up to date very well.

Timestamp: 1/11/2010 6:44:43 PM    Name: tom  Subject: speed        E-mail: tradka66@yahoo.com
TrailReport: What is the speed limit on salmon river rd? 55 or slower because of being a plowed rd. since its not a groomed trail.

Timestamp: 1/11/2010 10:34:51 AM    Name: thomas   Subject: gps        E-mail: shabro194@optonline.net
TrailReport: bc trails were great this week end and for downloading trail maps i use www.redpinemapping.com for the trails its very good

Timestamp: 1/11/2010 12:17:49 AM    Name: Super Sport 550  Subject: GPS maps        E-mail: crzylzy98@yahoo.com
TrailReport: I noticed Dan mentioned using the Garmin with snowmobile maps. I own a Venture HC that can download maps. I went to the Garmin page and could not come up with anything involving sled trails... any info would be greatly appreciated. Thank You. There is no Center line, and the Right side is mine

Timestamp: 1/10/2010 8:48:50 AM    Name: Smooth Operator  Subject: Shanty Rd ???        E-mail: brianpaddle@yahoo.com
TrailReport: Josh, I noticed the same thing yesterday while reading the reports posted on the Edges website for Sno-Pals. The Shanty Rd is likely a typo or a road that another club grooms. All of our trails are is good shape at this time. Last night Pete D. groomed the Montague Loops A and B. and as I'm typing this Orley L. is grooming the Copenhagen Trails. Later today, after dinner Jim H. will be working his magic on the Montague Loops A and B again. A revised schedule of the grooming can be found by clicking on GROOMING SCHEDULE, with plenty of snow and sustained cold temps we have been able to adhere to the schedule. Ride Right, Ride Safe.

Timestamp: 1/9/2010 8:09:29 PM    Name: Josh  Subject: Shanty Road        E-mail: jdmluther@hotmail.com
TrailReport: I saw on another site- I think the Edge, that Shanty road was bad? I was making notes on my map but cant seem to find this trail. Can anyone clue me in? Thanks Josh

Timestamp: 1/8/2010 7:46:48 PM    Name: JT  Subject: Speed Limits        E-mail: jtroise81@gmail.com
TrailReport: Speed limits are posted very clearly this year. Most of State Forest trails are posted at 25mph. Main trail corridors are typically 55mph. Watch out, if there is no signage always assume 55mph. Cops do and will clock you with radar guns. WARNING!!!!Officers will hide behind trees and step out onto trail in front of you. Stay safe!!! Ride Right!!!

Timestamp: 1/8/2010 6:48:46 PM    Name: chris  Subject: speed        E-mail: rednekchickenfry@aim.com
TrailReport: whats the speed limit on trails on the hill.?

Timestamp: 1/8/2010 10:07:58 AM    Name: Smooth Operator  Subject: Grooming Report 1-7-10        E-mail: brianpaddle@yahoo.com
TrailReport: Just hours after Gary finished grooming the Barnes Corners to Copenhagen routes yesterday I headed out to groom the Montague Loops "A " and "B" Loops. Traffic was pretty steady early but I don't remember seeing any sledders after 11:30p.m. We have received a much needed amount of new snow over the last week which is building up a decent base and helped freeze up any water crossings. A couple of ice/dirt base inside corners on Mile Strip Rd and the Horace Forward Truck Trail can be safely navigated. Redfield Snowmobile Club had already turned around at the Mad River Gates before I got there and the plowed section of Salmon River Rd did have a nice powder base along the snow banks. Sadly I saw where some sledders are driving beyond reasonable speeds and went of the groomed trails, SLOW DOWN, DON'T BECOME A STATISTIC. Ride Right, Ride Safe.

Timestamp: 1/8/2010 7:01:19 AM    Name: tom  Subject: jt        E-mail: tradka66@yahoo.com
TrailReport: Thanks jt. I will then be going up salmon river rd I know that way well. we plan on riding to bc. and montaque. to bad things have to be that way. its nad enough there plowing a main rte like graves rd. thanks again

Timestamp: 1/7/2010 9:40:11 PM    Name: JT  Subject: Tom        E-mail: jtroise81@gmail.com
TrailReport: Tom, Just a thought and I may be wrong. Havent done it in a while but, you may be able to drop off in Redfield and follow map around Salmon River Resevoir and pick up Salmon River Rd. You would have to look a trail map a little closer but I believe C4 or C5 is what you want to look for. However, dont take my word for it. I havent been that way in a while.

Timestamp: 1/7/2010 9:30:47 PM    Name: JT  Subject: Cedar Pines        E-mail: jtroise81@gmail.com
TrailReport: Tom, I gave up on riding cedar pines trails a long time ago. Last time through there I thought I was going to need back surgery. I found they're trails to very rough and totally unsafe. Its my opinion that you would be better off driving a little further and dropping at Barnes Corners. Trust me, Its worth it. BCSP's rule. Stay safe!! Ride Right!!!!!

Timestamp: 1/7/2010 4:42:47 PM    Name: tom  Subject: ceder pines trails        E-mail: tradka66@yahoo.com
TrailReport:  Why is the trails so bad at ceder pines? i'll be up next weds. riding from the grist mill always a stop. but wondering wheather to go there or bypass which of those trails do we not want to go on? thanks

Timestamp: 1/7/2010 11:23:20 AM    Name: chris  Subject: trails        E-mail: rednekchickenfry@aim.com
TrailReport: hopefully going riding this weekend. Going to put a lotta miles on the sled. Trails were awesome tuesday afternoon we were able to ride right along over to flat rock within like a half hour. from worth to flat rock thanks chris hats off banres corners

Timestamp: 1/7/2010 4:47:23 AM    Name: bryan costello  Subject: shanty rd trail        E-mail: bryancostello63@hotmail.com
TrailReport: 1-6-10 Good rideing yesterday,leaveing cedar pines,it has always been the same 2 the sportsmen shanty rd trail,they never groom it,the trail was so bad it was not save 2 ride on,and they wounder why people dont go there,stay away from ceder pines.

Timestamp: 1/6/2010 7:36:30 PM    Name: JZO  Subject: Trail Info        E-mail: jonyon@twcny.rr.com
TrailReport: Jim, The trail you are speaking about has been moved. You will now enter that trail (C5K) from Mud Street which will take you into Copenhagen

Timestamp: 1/6/2010 2:40:05 PM    Name: Derrick   Subject: Trail Conditions        E-mail: dkfrancis@verizon.net
TrailReport: Just wondering how the trail conditions are from pulask, we stay a brenda's motel. We always head north to the Barnes Corners trail wondering how it is from pulaski, along with winona forest

Timestamp: 1/6/2010 11:03:02 AM    Name: kevin  Subject: dinner        E-mail: kbrown21@twcny.rr.com
TrailReport: davenport hotel in downtown copenhagen.real good food.

Timestamp: 1/5/2010 11:11:08 PM    Name: jim  Subject: orwell to winona?        E-mail: jenslin@optonline.net
TrailReport: Is the riding from Winona State Forest to Orwell good?

Timestamp: 1/5/2010 11:05:46 PM    Name: jim  Subject: good steak        E-mail: jenslin@optonline.net
TrailReport: Any good Dinner places around Copenhagen? Thanks

Timestamp: 1/5/2010 11:03:07 PM    Name: jim  Subject: gates closed        E-mail: jenslin@optonline.net
TrailReport: My buddy and I rode out of Turin to Copenhagen but had to stop about a mile from the center of town only to find the trail gate closed until December 14th for hunting. Hmmm December 30th and 31st we rode. So we went to Carthage and down the other side into Copenhagen. Hey no-problem. Is this gate open yet? It is clearly a marked trail with signs on each end of the property stating closed until Dec 14th. Thanks. see ya on the trails.

Timestamp: 1/5/2010 9:33:08 PM    Name: Dan  Subject: GPS        E-mail: anon@anonymous.com
TrailReport: I use a Garmin 60Cx with New York Sled Maps from their website. Its been a tremendous tool, especially in unfamiliar territory at night in whiteout conditions, a few times, I'm not sure how I would of made it home without it! I mount it on the handlebars of my Polaris IQ without a problem with the bike/handlebar mount. Very sweet setup, a must have for any serious snowmobiler! In the summer I load marine maps for the boat, and use it to hike with. This awesome GPS is color, waterproof, and can be had be had online for 299 approx.

Timestamp: 1/5/2010 12:42:31 PM    Name: Randy  Subject: Wolcott        E-mail: randyv@lmcic.com
TrailReport: Hey Bill, i live in Wolcott. Yes we have recieved OVER 50" since this morning and it's still coming down. It settles fast. About 24" on the level after it settles. Very fluffy.

Timestamp: 1/5/2010 12:22:26 PM    Name: smasher8383  Subject: great trails        E-mail: smasher8383@yahoo.com
TrailReport: hats off to sno-pals for the great trails. the guy that groomed friday saturday sunday night did a great job with one groomer.keep up the great work.450 miles friday to sunday night

Timestamp: 1/5/2010 11:42:02 AM    Name: Bill  Subject: Wolcott        E-mail: tanner5sws@verizon.net
TrailReport: This post is regarding Dan's previous post about Wolcott. Tried to email at the address given in the post but undeliverable. Like some more info. Was my hometown also.

Timestamp: 1/5/2010 1:28:20 AM    Name: DAN  Subject: RIDE SAFE        E-mail: WWW.ARCAT@YAHOO.COM
TrailReport: I LIVE IN ORWELL ON THE WESTERN PART OF THE HILL TRAILES ARE GREAT WITH ABOUT 3 TO 4 FOOT OF SNOW LITTLE TO NO TRAFFIC IF YOU WANT TO RIDE SAFE THIS IS A GREAT AREA ONLY LOCOLES RIDE THE TRALIS.ALSO MY OLD HOME TOWN WOLCOTT IN WAYNE COUNTY HAS GOTTEN 50 INCHES OF SNOW IN THE LAST 4 DAYS WITH ANOTHER 40 INCHES IN THE FORCAST IN THE NEXT FOUR DAYS TRAILS ARE MAPPED AND GROOMED SO IF YOU WANT SOME DEEP DEEP POWDER RIDING THAT IS THE PLACE TO RIDE RITE NOW.

Timestamp: 1/4/2010 9:06:42 PM    Name: JZO  Subject: Trail update        E-mail: jonyon@twcny.rr.com
TrailReport: Did 120 miles on the Hill today and the Trails had been in great shape. Hit the trails groomed by SNO-PALS, Valley and Missing Link and all are doing an outstanding job. My wife and I have lost all interest of riding the main parts of the hill on the weekend due to the disengaged brains running wild. Little luck with the step up of the law enforcement will retake control of the hill.

Timestamp: 1/4/2010 2:46:37 PM    Name: TOURING CAT  Subject: SAFETY        E-mail: gna93@hotmail.com
TrailReport: Thanks for the gps update. I agree with rider safety iwe have had so many close calls that we no longer go to the hill on the weekendsas a family. We have to take off time from work and go up on a Sunday thru Thur in order to enjoy the beauty that the area has to offer. I like going fast but their is a time and place for that not on the trails where others can get hurt.Stay right-stay safe.

Timestamp: 1/4/2010 12:51:46 PM    Name: tommy  Subject: trail maps        E-mail: shabro1964@optonline.net
TrailReport: red pine maps are very good to use with a topo map and you won't get lost only problem that red pine has some old state trails on it which if you follow them you find your self on private land but all in all its great we rode bc trails all week end and they were great but we need to all get together on trying to stop these crazy riders i had my 14 year daughter out this week end and we were almost hit 5 times these people see you coming and still don't ride right !

Timestamp: 1/4/2010 11:03:29 AM    Name: TOURINGCAT  Subject: GPS        E-mail: gna93@hotmail.com
TrailReport: has anybody used some of the gps maps available for snowmobile use. In particular the one from red pine mapping? I have been thinking of trying one so i can get rid of these crazy maps. Thanks for any input you may have.

Timestamp: 1/3/2010 9:07:13 PM    Name: JT  Subject: Trail Conditions        E-mail: jtroise81@gmail.com
TrailReport: I left driveway from Loomis Rd around 2:30p.m. New Years Day. Trails were a little choppy in a few spots. Other than that, in great shape as always. Seen a few groups of 15 plus sleds. I almost got tagged by two sleds running side by side on Mile Strip Rd. STAY RIGHT!!! It's too early in the season to wreck your ride. I've seen too many tragic accidents over the years, on our trails. We are all responsible for each others safety. More snow is on the way for this week. I cant wait for next weekend. Keep up the great work Smooth Operator!!!! Thanks.

Timestamp: 1/3/2010 6:26:13 PM    Name: Dana  Subject: Gun Raffle        E-mail: dana@sno-pals.com
TrailReport: The Sno-Pals December gun raffle is complete...thanks to everyone that supported the club by purchasing a ticket. The 23 winners have been notified and will be listed in the next club newsletter. The newsletters is distributed only via e-maile, so if you are a member and not getting the newsletter please send a message to dana@sno-pals.com with your e-mail address.

Timestamp: 1/1/2010 9:15:57 PM    Name: yamahaluke  Subject: grooming        E-mail: lakeeffect56@yahoo.con
TrailReport: Hey smooth operator, thanks for spending New Years Eve getting the trails in shape for the rest of us to enjoy. That's why I joined this club, you guys are the best.

Timestamp: 1/1/2010 1:40:41 PM    Name: Smooth Operator  Subject: Happy New Year.        E-mail: brianpaddle@yahoo.com
TrailReport: Last night I had the privilege of grooming into the new year 2010. I left the groomer barn at 9:45 pm to groom the Montague Loops "A" and "B" and was fueling the John Deere back up at 6:45am. Traffic was pretty steady for most of the night but the snow seemed to work good in the drags and left a nice finished product. Heavy holiday traffic has caused some of the sharper corners to have ice or dirt inside lanes so I tried to pull some snow threw these corners. I wasn't surprised to see that Valley Snow Travelers had Parker Rd groomed to perfection and also as far up Flat Rock Rd that I could see. Also when I got to the Mad River gates on Salmon River Rd I could see that the Redfield Club had been out yesterday. Light snow fell during the night but only about an inch had settled on my parked vehicle at Barnes Corners. NOTE: The trail behind Tuggers (Doug's Drive) still has some dirt base but is ridable. Ride Right, Ride Safe.

Timestamp: 1/1/2010 9:39:19 AM    Name: Dana  Subject: Grooming Schedule        E-mail: dana@sno-pals.com
TrailReport: To view the revised grooming schedule go to the Sno-pals home page and click on the GROOMING SCHEDULE link

Timestamp: 1/1/2010 9:31:40 AM    Name: Dana  Subject: Grooming        E-mail: dana@sno-pals.com
TrailReport: Update on the Pisten Bully from Gary: Got the oil pan off and found a gash approx 1 1/2 inches wide by 6 or 7 " long. Much larger than what it looked like while laying in the snow. In the pan was lots of metal filings and several large pieces of metal about the size of your finger nail. One of our members who is a diesel mechanic got under it and disconnected 2 of the connecting rods and found that the crank is torn up which means the engine has to come out. No estimate yet but he thinks it will be in the $14,000 area! Not sure when (or even if) the Bully will return to service. It may be several weeks. Grooming: We have redone our grooming schedule which should leave our trails in excellent condition. We'll have what some may call a "hot seat" as there will be times when the John Deere comes back for fuel then goes back out with a different operator. Our goal is to continue to provide the trail conditions which you have come to expect from the BCSP's.

Timestamp: 12/31/2009 11:38:54 AM    Name: Tim  Subject: Trails On 12/29        E-mail: timstanka@bluefrog.com
TrailReport: Six of us came up from Rochester and stayed at the Ridgeview. We rode the Barnes Corners, Redfield, Highmarket, Osceola, Constable area trails. We had a great time and saw groomers Tuesday night and Wed. The trails were in great shape until the end of yesterday. It seems like all the clubs did a great job of using the new snow to get the trails in shape. I saw only a couple of marginal snow spots. Overall . . . excellent trails.

Timestamp: 12/31/2009 9:47:46 AM    Name: Dana  Subject: Grooming        E-mail: dana@sno-pals.com
TrailReport: Yesterday the Pisten Bully was extracted from the Tom Sawyer Trail and trucked to the barn. Sno-Pals will be operating with one groomer until the Bully is repaired. Happy New Year and ride safe ride right.

Timestamp: 12/30/2009 11:03:32 AM    Name: Tom  Subject: Trails        E-mail: teamkawasaki@yahoo.com
TrailReport: I unloaded on Smith Rd. at the pull off and rode to High Market then back up around to Tabolts, then Gorge, then Flat Rock, then Montague, then Coopenhagen and Carthrage and returned. Trails were choppy to rough but not horrible. It was decent for the most part, traffic was average to above average for a week day.

Timestamp: 12/29/2009 9:44:37 PM    Name: Yamahahahahah  Subject: Trail report ??        E-mail: NOYB@yahoo.us
TrailReport: Anybody got any idea what the trails are like ?

Timestamp: 12/29/2009 9:21:37 PM    Name: Dana  Subject: Pisten Bully        E-mail: dana@sno-pals.com
TrailReport: The Pisten Bully will be down until further notice. The timing isn't good...lots of new snow and holiday week traffic. We will be doing our best to groom the 100 miles of Sno-Pal trails with one machine. Your patience will be appreciated. Yes we are looking to replace the current Bully with a new Bully

Timestamp: 12/29/2009 8:12:28 PM    Name: rodman redneck   Subject: pisten bully         E-mail: tyler17d@aol.com
TrailReport: what happend to the pisten bully ? i hear that you might be getting rid the pisten bully is it true if so why ? i think u guys would be crazy to get rid of it, it is a good machine. the only reason i can think of why you might get rid of it is to update to a newer version of the pisten bully or something like it ? trails this year barns corners sno-pals has got the best groomed trails way to go hatts off to you guys

Timestamp: 12/29/2009 5:05:39 PM    Name: Dana  Subject: Tom Sawyer Trail        E-mail: dana@sno-pals.com
TrailReport: At this time the Pisten Bully is disabled. Murphy's law is in effect, it's in a tight spot on the Tom Sawyer trail (trail that runs behind the Montague). The John Deere, minus drags, is enroute to remove the machine. Use caution on this trail.

Timestamp: 12/29/2009 6:41:38 AM    Name: Dana  Subject: Grooming Schedule        E-mail: dana@sno-pals.com
TrailReport: Grooming schedule can be found at http://www.sno-pals.com/grooming_schedule.htm on that page you will also find a link to a printable version

Timestamp: 12/29/2009 4:34:43 AM    Name: Gary  Subject: Grooming Schedule        E-mail: gary@sno-pals.com
TrailReport: Our grooming schedule is posted on this site. We will return to full grooming operations today

Timestamp: 12/28/2009 10:59:06 PM    Name: bam  Subject: snopals gromming schedule        E-mail: blynngoz@aol.com
TrailReport: Do we have an official schedule to grooming??? Lots of snow out there tonight and many asking when snopals will be there????

Timestamp: 12/28/2009 10:57:25 PM    Name: bam  Subject: snopals gromming schedule        E-mail: blynngoz@aol.com
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Timestamp: 12/28/2009 7:49:48 PM    Name: doug renz  Subject: snowmobile drags        E-mail: donger1us@yahoo.com
TrailReport: the trailhounds and the cincinnatus fire dept are hosting there 3rd annual snowmobile drags january 23 registration from 8 till 11 racing starts at 12 noon sharp.for info email me at donger1us@yahoo.com

Timestamp: 12/28/2009 6:20:05 PM    Name: John  Subject: Lewis County Permits        E-mail: jwrussellny@yahoo.com
TrailReport: I just searched and the only thing that came up was a proposed permit for ATV's.

Timestamp: 12/28/2009 5:59:50 PM    Name: Gary  Subject: Lewis Co Permits        E-mail: gary@sno-pals.com
TrailReport: Shane...I've heard the same rumor with no details. Not knowing how it will work prohibits any opinion at this time.

Timestamp: 12/28/2009 5:17:27 PM    Name: gary  Subject: snow fall        E-mail: garyschap@yahoo.com
TrailReport: looks like your gettin alot of snow up there

Timestamp: 12/28/2009 3:49:16 PM    Name: Shane  Subject: Permits        E-mail: tughillhunter1@yahoo.com
TrailReport: I heard something on the radio the other day about Lewis County going to a permit system for sleds like the Town of Webb does. Does anyone have any info on this and what is the Sno-Pals opinion? Thanks

Timestamp: 12/27/2009 5:51:40 PM    Name: Dana  Subject: grooming        E-mail: dana@sno-pals.com
TrailReport: Due to the high temps, rain and lack of new snow Sno-Pals did not groom Friday or Satuday night and we will not groom tonight. We'll be grooming as soon as conditions permit.

Timestamp: 12/27/2009 4:34:02 PM    Name: MATT WISE   Subject: SNOW ON THE HILL AFTER RAIN?        E-mail: MWISE9@YAHOO.COM
TrailReport: WE ARE COMING UP WED 30TH IS THERE STILL GOOD SNOW TO RIDE ON? THANKS MATT

Timestamp: 12/24/2009 8:46:39 PM    Name: Dana  Subject: Grooming 12-24-09        E-mail: dana@sno-pals.com
TrailReport: Sno-Pals delivered an early Christmas gift today...This morning the Copenhagen trails were groomed from the groomer barn to the Tug Hill Sports Lodge. Adams route trails from the groomer barn to County Route 95 were groomed. This afternooon Brian and Heath groomed the 2 Montague Routes. Seasonal roads are in excellent shape. Dirt based trails such as Tom Sawyer and the Powerline trail need more snow but all water areas are frozen up.

Timestamp: 12/24/2009 12:48:24 PM    Name: CrossfireKev  Subject: Trails        E-mail: cudakev@hotmail.com
TrailReport: We rode from Little John to Timberview. Most of the trails in really good shape except little John. Merry Christmas to all the clubs, groomers and riders. Have a safe Holiday

Timestamp: 12/23/2009 7:45:13 PM    Name: doug  Subject: great trails        E-mail: donger1us@yahoo.com
TrailReport: hello my freinds and i rodee your trauils today and southern tug hill all day today good job with the grooming.Is there a club towardredfield those trails i dont think have seen a groomer this yr

Timestamp: 12/23/2009 6:04:15 PM    Name: Dana  Subject: Grooming        E-mail: dana@sno-pals.com
TrailReport: The two Montague routes were groomed Tuesday night. Tomorrow we will attempt to groom a Copenhagen Run from the barn to Rte 12 and back. Additonally the Adams Route trails will be groomed west of County Route 95. For Route details go to the grooming schedule link. On behalf of the Sno-Pals grooming team, Gary, Donny, Mark, Barry, Vinny, Tim, Heath, Brian, Pete, the Brimmer Brothers Rod and Gene, Jim, Orlin, Mike, Coop and yours truly: Merry Christmas to all and THANK YOU FOR YOUR SUPPORT

Timestamp: 12/23/2009 10:16:31 AM    Name: Phil  Subject: correction        E-mail: revisbest@aol.com
TrailReport: Just wanted to include my name and proper email address.

Timestamp: 12/23/2009 10:14:52 AM    Name: revisbest  Subject: thanks to BC Sno Pals        E-mail: 1998r1
TrailReport: I would like to say thanks to all of the groomer operators and to Gary for grooming the trails in Barnes Corners and Tug Hill. I have been a member of Sno-Pals for last four years now and am proud to be one. The best club up there in my opinion. The season has gotten off to a great start. Yes there will be some water holes and muddy areas but I am just thankful that there has been snow so early and I have ridden 200 miles already. Trails were great weekend of December 19th. Let the naysayers go to another club. I will continue to support BC Sno-Pals!!!

Timestamp: 12/22/2009 8:34:14 PM    Name: Tim  Subject: trails 12/22        E-mail: tday16@rochester.rr.com
TrailReport: Hit the trail today at 10 am in BC. Anyone complaining about the trails should have their head examined. We rode 97 mi. today and trails were good to verygood. Use common sense and those rocks or slightly worn corners willn't be a problem. All clubs have done an excellent job with the snow they recieved almost 2 weeks ago. BC snowpals have the least amount of snow but trails get better as you move south and east. All roads are hard packed and ridable (but again use your head) except sears pond which was ice and no lube, use the Tom Sawyer trail. All trails from flatrock to tabolts corners were flat and fast, the railroad bed was verygood, back around on the number 9 road to tabolt corners was good with some small rollers and corners a bit bumpy. Still riding 40 mph through this area. Flatrock and rector were flat and fast. West end of flatrock from parker to pitcher was bumpy but not brutal. Back at the truck at 3pm and home in rochester before 6pm. If you can get a ride in before the weather changes you willnot be disappointed.

Timestamp: 12/22/2009 6:45:28 AM    Name: roady  Subject: trails        E-mail: lockerknows@hotmail.com
TrailReport: Rode the BC trails on Sunday and all was fine. Excellant is a better word. Stopped and tossed some sticks and stones off the trail. Too bad some others didn't do the same. I find it hard to believe that soomeone could complain about the BC trails yet leave some of the real problem areas out of it. And to whine about $25... "come on man".

Timestamp: 12/21/2009 5:18:14 PM    Name: Dana  Subject: Ride today        E-mail: dana@sno-pals.com
TrailReport: 150 mile trip today dropped in Barnes Corners rode the Sno-Pals Montague trails (good to excellent) to the start of the Redfield trail system on SRR and turned around as the trail is in need of grooming. It appeared Valley Sno-Travelers groomed Flat Rock, Carey and French last night and also opened up Toole Road and the west end of Graves. This has areas light on snow but all is passable. Good alternative to the plowed section of Graves. Houseville Gulf Road was freshly groomed. Headed to Brantingham and then fueled up in Lyons Falls. Route back up the escarpment was a freshly groomed Morgan Gulf Road. Once back to BC hit the Sno-Pals trails between BC and Copenhagen. Trails groomed last Thursday have held up perfect. C5 trail between BC and Corey Road is VERY ROUGH but passable take it slow it's a short distance Best groomed trails of the day honor goes to co-winners Valley and Timberview. Passed about 12 sleds all day

Timestamp: 12/21/2009 4:14:36 PM    Name: Jeff  Subject: Snow        E-mail: jjbath@yahoo.com
TrailReport: Hopefully the snow will fall if not now big deal it will eventually. The reason I joined the BC Sno-Pals is because their trails are consistently the best. Sure once in a while they are bumpy but with the traffic they see its understandable. But more often than not they have the smoothest trails when the rest are a mess. I will admit that for the most part all of the clubs have been doing a decent job in the last couple of years.

Timestamp: 12/21/2009 3:43:31 PM    Name: Craig  Subject: Trails        E-mail: dyerdon@twcny.rr.com
TrailReport: We rode from Parsh NY to Flat Rock yeasterday. Trails were great.Rode 134 miles.BCSP were the best on the hill hats off!!

Timestamp: 12/21/2009 3:21:59 PM    Name: Todd  Subject: Re: @Jeff        E-mail: kassaudio89@aim.com
TrailReport: Yes snow is in the forecast for after Christmas. Unfortunately these is rain the the forecast this week :( On another note BCSP you trails kick a$$, some of the best riding on the hill and luckily doesn't see the high traffic that other places do(such as Redfield)

Timestamp: 12/21/2009 2:38:17 PM    Name: Jeff  Subject: Snow        E-mail: jjbath@yahoo.com
TrailReport: Is there any snow in the forcast? I'm thinking of coming up the week after xmas.

Timestamp: 12/21/2009 8:10:06 AM    Name: Dan  Subject: scott        E-mail: dan@apgarconstruction.com
TrailReport: scott. still has the best trails out there. you had a bad trip , we all do once and a while. some guys hit rough trails all the time. It's so early in the season. they are working on getting the trails a good base to it lasts through the winter. I almost wish that when the first few snowfalls hit, that the trails be closed so they aren't ripped up before a base can form. the start of the season should be based on trail conditions. a few feet of snow can be ruined easily with people thinking it's February and ripping it all up before it can set and be groomed properly

Timestamp: 12/21/2009 1:36:43 AM    Name: scott  Subject: trails        E-mail: andersons031106@hotmail.com
TrailReport: First i would just like to say that in previous years I was always very supportive to your club and its dedicated few that maintain the trails. 2nd your right you guys usually had some of the best trails but, last year this was not the case the 3 trips i made for 4 or 5 days at a time. All of which were weekday trips, 1 in january, 1 in february, and 1 the 1st week of march last season. 3rd this season is starting the same way and I wanted to know why. You had no problem getting guys out to groom for the weekend, probably because you wanted a good turn out for the pig roast. 4th my comments were not to bash the guys whon voluteer there time to groom they were directed toward the president or whoever makes the decision that its notworth grooming at that time. I can understand when the temps. are to warm as was the case last weekend, but when I was there, Tuesday, Wednesday and Thursday, The temps. were well below freezing and it did drop 4 or 5 inches in your area of fresh snow on top of what was there at least the 1 evening, along with the fact that the southern tier received 10 inches and they were not ou grooming either, so I don't understand.5th I appologize to the several other groomer operators who thought I was bashing them personally. Goodbye all and have a Merry Christmas or whatecer holiday you all celebrate.

Timestamp: 12/20/2009 9:31:43 PM    Name: doug  Subject: reply for dana        E-mail: donger1us@yahoo.com
TrailReport: dana thank you for your reply and i hope you guys have a good yr thank you for your time

Timestamp: 12/20/2009 7:41:55 PM    Name: Steve  Subject: Grooming        E-mail: sjgorgen2@aol.com
TrailReport: Rode up on the hill today put in about 80 to 90 miles. Great Time. Just want to take time and thank the Sno-Pals for all their hard work..You guys do a great job.. Thanks again for another great time on Tug Hill...

Timestamp: 12/20/2009 6:55:03 PM    Name: Kevin  Subject: Awsome trails        E-mail: kherderich@yahoo.com
TrailReport: rode 220 miles today on the hill. trails are in pretty good condition, just a few could use some more snow.

Timestamp: 12/20/2009 6:52:44 PM    Name: dana  Subject: reply for doug        E-mail: dana@sno-pals.com
TrailReport: Doug if you ride the season roads on the top of the Hill you should be in fine shape. every area with water I encountered yesterday was frozen SOLID

Timestamp: 12/20/2009 4:07:16 PM    Name: Dave  Subject: Sno pals..        E-mail: mxz600@twcny.rr.com
TrailReport: Just an opinion... Every time I ride ''the hill' I look forward to getting over to the trails that ''sno-pals'' maintain.. On the average the trails are always a cut above the rest... I just wanted to take a min. -with all the bashing that your club is getting and say.... THANK YOU for the time and effort you all put in to your trail system... I know I and the people I ride with every weekend really appreciate it!!!!!! Thank you!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Timestamp: 12/20/2009 2:29:26 PM    Name: Smooth Operator  Subject: Scott Anderson?        E-mail: brianpaddle@yahoo.com
TrailReport: I just want to say that I can understand how Scott must have felt frustrated not seeing our trails in tip-top shape. As Gary, (our President) has stated, there are more key elements to smooth, rideable trails. We want all our members to ride well groomed and safe trails, but we also need help from mother nature and a lot of the time help from YOU the snowmobiler. Your comments and information helps us decide, (if we can) what areas need attention. In no way should club bashing, negative criticism or threats be directed towards any group of volunteers that dedicated so many hours for the betterment of the sport. Ride right and ride safe.

Timestamp: 12/20/2009 12:50:53 PM    Name: Lucas  Subject: Trails        E-mail: Diamondrev33@hotmail.com
TrailReport: I just got home from camp and have been reading the posts from dec. 19th to present. I just want to say WOW! Someone with name "*@?#" that was whining about the sno-pals grooming first of all is a coward for not writing their name. Way to bash the people that provide safety and groomed trails and that spend countless hours clearing, signing and maintaining our trail system. If you have the nerve to bash a groomer club (ie. sno-pals) and dont leave your name, you dont deserve to ride are trail system. stay home we dont want you on the hill anyway. As for the pig roast we had a terrific time. good food and great company. My hats off to the crew at the Barnes Corners Sno-Pals. Keep up the great work.

Timestamp: 12/20/2009 9:55:01 AM    Name: doug  Subject: rideing        E-mail: donger1us@yahoo.com
TrailReport: hello again this is doug from the trail hounds club we are planning on comming up wednesday for the day to go riding is there anywhere we should stay away from up there due to water and stuff

Timestamp: 12/20/2009 9:34:07 AM    Name: Smooth Operator  Subject: Pig Roast/ Groomer Report        E-mail: brianpaddle@yahoo.com
TrailReport: I would like to thank everybody that stopped by the groomer barn yesterday to say "hello" and enjoy some delicious food. We are already talking about having a 3rd annual pig roast due to the increase in snowmobilers that made time to stop and visit. TRAIL REPORT. Last night Heath and myself groomed both of the Montague Loops A and B. (Except for, Ognabene Trail, Horace Forace Trail from Mile Strip Rd to 7x9 Rd and Worth/Waite Rd from Forks Rd to 7x9 Rd.) The trail behind Tuggers has dirt/snow/ice and so does some of the Mile Strip Rd. The snow coverage gets better the farther you go from Barnes Corners. Traffic was steady all night and the cold temperatures (7*) kept the snow from really binding up. We really need new snow to help build on our base, but I have seen worse years so I'm not going to complain. Ride right and Have a MERRY CHRISTMAS everyone.

Timestamp: 12/20/2009 7:50:29 AM    Name: Matt  Subject: Sat Ride        E-mail: Matthewdennis@frontiernet.net
TrailReport: Well I was riding yesterday --Sorry about all the Negative feedback you guys recieved yesterday --my mother always said if you haven't got anything good to say --KEEP IT TO YOURSELF!!! I dropped in BC and rode the whole hill and I just think that it is a testament to EVERYONE grooming how great the Hill was yesterday.. WE dropped at 8:30 and we were back on the trailer by 2:00 with lunch and 135 miles.. Great Job to BC as well as all the other clubs -- with only one snowfall and that's what kind of trails to expect -- I'm impressed!!! What a great way to start the season -- KEEP IT UP!!! Thanx GUYS!!!

Timestamp: 12/19/2009 10:34:03 PM    Name: Jeremy  Subject: Not Bad        E-mail: 11tripp11@gmail.com
TrailReport: Friday I rode from Copenhagen to BC, that was rough. Once I got around BC, Montague, and Flat Rock the trails were great, especially considering the lack of snow. Took the windmill trail back to Carthage and even that wasn't too bad. I even passed a GROOMER on the way. Considering the conditions, and being a LOCAL rider, there is nothing to complain about. The trails are much better than I would have expected. Keep up the good work!

Timestamp: 12/19/2009 10:11:35 PM    Name: Carl Goodhines  Subject: Whiners        E-mail: carlgoodhines@yahoo.com
TrailReport: I'll match the $25.00 to keep him away from our trails and forum!

Timestamp: 12/19/2009 8:24:27 PM    Name: Dana  Subject: Today's ride        E-mail: dana@sno-pals.com
TrailReport: 144 mile route today was: Mohagany Ridge (Camden)>Redfield>Osceola>Boonville (great lunch at the Boonville Hotel)>C-ville>Highmarket>Mohagany Ridge. Found most dirt based trails to have minimal cover and very rough terrain. All water holes were locked up and easily passable. WE NEED MORE SNOW!!! The new trail from Nice and Easy is great thanks to all the landowners for making this happen. Smith Road is PLOWED from end to end. The northern end of Trail C4G is plowed for logging on the Swanscott Mills end. The south end of this trail has several downed trees. It has not been groomed this year (I’d speculate due to the logging)

Timestamp: 12/19/2009 8:19:51 PM    Name: Dana  Subject: EASY GUYS        E-mail: dana@sno-pals.com
TrailReport: This Trail Report page is for TRAIL REPORTS. I will delete posts that are abusive, combative, contain insults, or are inappropriate for a FAMILY website. This is the one and ONLY warning. Let's have a safe and fun season of snowmobiling.

Timestamp: 12/19/2009 7:48:15 PM    Name: Shane  Subject: Scott from PA        E-mail: tughillhunter1@yahoo.com
TrailReport: Scott send me your address and I'll send you your dues back on the condition that you stay in PA and off the hill! Every one of the people that maintain these trails volunteer their time, not only during the season but year round. You obviously know nothing about what it takes to run a snowmobile club. Just because you paid a whopping $25 to the club does not entitle you to perfectly flat trails every time you come to the hill. So either STFU or come up and help these guys maintain the trails!

Timestamp: 12/19/2009 7:20:29 PM    Name: John  Subject: Trails        E-mail: jwrussellny@yahoo.com
TrailReport: Dropped in the parking lot across from the Groomer Barn. Trail behind Tuggers was a little snirty, but there has been no new snow this week. Trails were in great condition for this time of year. They could have been alot worse. Thank you for all the time each and everyone on you spends away from your own families or riding yourself.

Timestamp: 12/19/2009 5:59:33 PM    Name: Rippem  Subject: posts        E-mail: devilinside32@hotmail.com
TrailReport: well said Dana. These complaining posters are obviously the element that doesn't get the "big picture"! Most likely no trail manners either judging from the attitude, it's all about THEM (of course). One spotty snowfall, windblown, and followed by warm temps, ect... and these bozos expect mint mid-season conditions? Unbelievable!

Timestamp: 12/19/2009 4:58:00 PM    Name: Dana  Subject: Scott's Message        E-mail: dana@sno-pals.com
TrailReport: Scott, I rode 140 miles today...333 for the season I rode some very rough trails and some smooth trails. It's the 19th of December, the season is 12 days in and there has been one snow storm in Barnes Corners. There is a long season ahead of us, and Sno-Pals wants to ensure the expensive equipment we operate is functional the ENTIRE SEASON. Your paitence will be greatly appreciated. Trust me there are 16 Sno-Pals groomer operators chomping at the bit ready run the machines. The two Montague Routes will be run tonight

Timestamp: 12/19/2009 4:45:39 PM    Name: scott  Subject: trails        E-mail: andersons031106@hotmail.com
TrailReport: Its funny how you guys always have an excuse. Valley managed to groom there trails. If you dont have the time or the people to groom them maybe you should shut down your club or find someone to run it that will take the time. I would be more than happy to stay home, just refund my money i paid you and i will ride the trails in Pa., because down here we do have the time to groom. As far as the water holes they were few and far between and only on 1 or 2 trails so what about the rest. Also it was ok to groom last week with the water holes there so why not this week? I guess we all know the truth. You are padding your pockets with our money and not the trails. Thanks again.

Timestamp: 12/19/2009 4:21:12 PM    Name: Bryan  Subject: grooming        E-mail: bshanley@nycap.rr.com
TrailReport: last 2 posters thanks for saying what had to be said ... Stay home if you don't like the trail grooming!!

Timestamp: 12/19/2009 3:59:20 PM    Name: doug  Subject: grooming        E-mail: donger1us@yahoo.com
TrailReport: hello to all you people bitching about grooming i am a member of the trail hounds in central new york and i do alot of the grooming here.As most of you no grooming and any other work done by the clubs is stricly volinteer so if all you people bitching about the trails being not as you like would get in a groomier with one of us who do groom and go out for 12 hrs at a time i suggest that you people shut up and quit whineing

Timestamp: 12/19/2009 3:47:10 PM    Name: NICK  Subject: GROOMING        E-mail: NHNATIW@TWCNY.RR.COM
TrailReport: FOR THOSE OF YOU COMPLAINING....STAY HOME..THE TRAIL SYSTEM IS WONDERFUL AND THE CLUBS THERE ROCK!ITS REALLY EARLY AND WATER HOLES HAVENT BEEN ABLE TO SET UP YET..YOUR JUST MAKING A BIGGER MESS BY RIDING THE TRAILS..LET MOTHER NATURE DO HER THING!WITH ALL THE CRYING SOUNDS LIKE YOUD RATHER HAVE SMOOTH RIDING..SELL YOUR SLED AND GET A MOTORCYCLE THEN! I WILL FOR ONE WAIT TILL WEATHER DOES ITS THING AS WELL AS FREEZING TEMPS TO SET UP THE TRAILS NICELY -HEN RIDE THE TRAILS WITH PEOPLE THAT UNDERSTAND AND RESPECT THEIR PRIVELEDGES!

Timestamp: 12/19/2009 2:06:18 PM    Name: Gary  Subject: Grooming        E-mail: gary@sno-pals.com
TrailReport: The snows which came 8 - 10 day ago was typical lake effect snows. It was received in narrow bands from Adams to Lowville and points south of that. It also came with high winds which destroyed property in the Southern Jefferson County area. As President of the Barnes Corners Sno-Pals we got one groomer out Sat the 12th and removed approx 16 trees from the trails. The snow arrived before any water holes were frozen so as we worked our way towards Montague our drags and machine become increasing heavy as did the snow. In Barnes Corners when we left I would estimate they had approx 12" on the ground. As we got over to the Tom Sawyer trail the snows were up to the bottom of the windshield so we were in approx 3 1/2 to 4 foot of snow with a drag that most likely weighted twice what it normally does. So having had removed the 16 trees we went back to the garage and called it a day. Sunday was warm with rain. Monday was about freezing so we got both groomers out and did the whole Montague trail system. Many more trees were removed from the trail and the trails were very smooth. Traffic was light all week and I spoke to several riders on Thrusday and again Friday and again today. All of them said our trails were fine except for some corners that got pushed up a bit. We will go out tonight to fix what we can ,however snow around Barnes Corners is light as it is near the gate to Rdefield's trails. Trails towards Montague have adequate snow coverage. Regarding Copenhagen trails they were groomed Thursday as far as the eastern end of the Picnkney Rd after that the fields were wind swept and some corn is still standing. (We just this morning got approval from the farmer to make a cut through that corn field) Once again trees were removed from McGown,Tontarski and Pinckney Roads. Next time out if snow conditons are adequate we'll make it to the Rt 12 turn around, the end of our system. This morning (12-19) we went towards Adams and stopped at Gruntly Rd as DEC has not opened the gates yet. In all likely hood we would have stopped anyway as the snow was getting very shallow. We remove several more trees from the portion of C5A which runs under the power line. Grooming equipment is very expensive snd you try not to use it in conditions which are marginal at best. The BCSP are looking at trying to replace the 2005 Piston Bully and it will be in the $185,000 range. All the groomer guys at BCSP (and I for that matter) take great pride in our trails and grooming. We ask that you be a little patient until more snow arrives. Thank You Gary

Timestamp: 12/19/2009 1:10:28 PM    Name: Tom  Subject: Trails/Grooming        E-mail: teamkawasaki@yahoo.com
TrailReport: Are any groomers going out tonight/tomorrow morning? I really hope so, bringing the whole family up(about 10 of us) riding tomrorow and it's their first trip up.

Timestamp: 12/19/2009 10:07:49 AM    Name: *@$%  Subject: groming        E-mail: josmo@urmomma.net
TrailReport: just curious as to why you have a grooming schedule posted, because you clearly don't follow it. Heck as a matter of fact you don't groom at all. Hope your pig roast is a flop today, it would be a shame to see people waste ther money by giving it you all.

Timestamp: 12/18/2009 10:07:25 PM    Name: scott  Subject: trails        E-mail: andersons031106@hotmail.com
TrailReport: Was up in the area for the first trip of the season. Arrived tuesday evening in Lowville at 6p.m and unloaded. On the trail by 7p.m. Hit great trails all the way to flat rock and then on to montague. Valley was out grooming as it was needed the trails were already in good shape. Then on to Barnes corners. Sno pals trails all in all were ok. Covered 163 miles and mostly in same area, tried to venture toward redfield but, as usual the trails that way were getting rough. awoke early wednesday to some fresh snow and hit the usual spots first. Sno pals trails looked appeared to have not been groomed as the turns on some trails were getting choppy. All vally's trails were excellent. Headed south from talbots corners and as always north road was horrible. Took Mcgoldrick down toward barrows and then on south to the hideaway. Was dissappointed to find out it was shut down again. Plenty of fresh powder that way, close to 10 inches or more, but no groomers in sight. Turned back and headed for the sportsmans. C4 was getting rough. Clocked 264 for the day. Early start on thursday only to find out the Sno pals still had not been out. Tried trail toward coopenhagen but it appeared we were only the 2nd to do so, so we turned back and headed south. Made it as far as the sportsman only to find out that southern tug was not out the night before either. Ended the day with 314 miles mostly riding the same trails over and over and over. Never did see the sno pals out once or any other club except for valley which was ou every night. What a major dissapointment. All that early snow and perfect temps, yet no one was doing anything with it except valley. Maybe the sno pals can donate my $25.00 to them since at least there doing there part. I for one know I won't be a sno pal member next year if this keeps up, and i defenitely won't be supporting anymore of your fund raisers, what a waste. You guys used to be the best and now I'm not sure your even a club, because from what I know, clubs groom!!!!

Timestamp: 12/18/2009 8:32:26 PM    Name: webmaster  Subject: answer for John        E-mail: webmaster@sno-pals.com
TrailReport: Trailer drop at either Barnes Corners or Montague and you'll be fine. If you choose BC the trail behind Tuggers will be rough but passable...should be frozen up and anyway it's a short run

Timestamp: 12/18/2009 7:42:39 PM    Name: D"Rek  Subject: nice job sno-pals        E-mail: pingy67@nycap.rr.com
TrailReport: unloaded this morning at smith rd parking lot in c"ville....smith,north,passed highmarket,down thru the sportmans over to the railroad bed were exellent...then up to the hill to tabolts corners,french to fykes over to flat rock were awsome....flat rock rd was super then out to the sno-pals....which were prob the BEST groomed trails by far out there!...nice job guys...tuggers for lunch then back to the trailer added up to 139 miles of awsome trails....tons of snow....should be a great weekend ...thanks for a great day guys!

Timestamp: 12/18/2009 3:09:39 PM    Name: John  Subject: Trailer Drop        E-mail: jwrussellny@yahoo.com
TrailReport: Coming up this weekend, would it be better to drop at Barnes Corners or Montague?

Timestamp: 12/18/2009 1:17:11 PM    Name: Matt  Subject: Lower Hill        E-mail: Matthewdennis@frontiernet.net
TrailReport: Hey thinking of coming up tomorrow and dropping in either Redfield or Cedar Pines and riding up to the Hill.. Any ideas on the lower trails up to the hill(water, trees down, passable??) Thanx

Timestamp: 12/18/2009 7:42:29 AM    Name: webmaster  Subject: message for Lucas        E-mail: webmaster@sno-pals.com
TrailReport: Lucas FYI...I just read on another site that the Beaver Creek Trail (from the sawdust pile to Little John Road) is closed due to water and trees down.

Timestamp: 12/18/2009 4:32:45 AM    Name: Lucas  Subject: Little john re.        E-mail: Diamondrev33@hotmail.com
TrailReport: Thanks for the info webmaster i'll check into that site.

Timestamp: 12/17/2009 5:19:23 PM    Name: Dana  Subject: 12-17-09 grooming        E-mail: dana@sno-pals.com
TrailReport: The BC Sno-Pals John Deere went on an abreviated Copenhagen trail (C5 and S56) maintenance/grooming run this morning. The dirt base trail from Rte 194 to Corey Road was avoided due to assumed water issues but all the area seasonal roads were groomed and cleared of downed trees. 4* and sunny in Barnes Corners at 1PM. Not a lot of snow up that way but it is a nice solid base. Turned the machine back to BC where the groomed section of Pinkney Road ends and the trail turns into a hayfield behind the Tug Hill Sports Lodge...the snow cover on fields was significantly windblown

Timestamp: 12/17/2009 5:18:41 PM    Name: Webmaster  Subject: Lucas/Little John        E-mail: webmaster@sno-pals.com
TrailReport: Lucas if you don't get an answer here try the Pulaski-Boyltson Snowmobile club website...that's the club that grooms Little John

Timestamp: 12/17/2009 3:55:11 PM    Name: Lucas  Subject: Littlejohn        E-mail: Diamondrev33@hotmail.com
TrailReport: Wondering if littlejohn has been groomed? I was on it last sunday and there were a couple of trees across trail. Headed to camp friday and wondering if I should bring the saw.

Timestamp: 12/17/2009 3:41:44 PM    Name: craig  Subject: trails        E-mail: dyerdon@twcny.rr.com
TrailReport: thinking about coming up sunday wondered if we should our not?

Timestamp: 12/16/2009 11:47:19 PM    Name: Chris  Subject: redfield        E-mail: ctakacs
TrailReport: Looks like the redfield area got upwards of 8-12'' inches of snow today, with some more tonight ont he way...With the cold temps and new snow, should make for easy access to the "hill" via the redfield trails...:) knock on wood. thanks Jeff

Timestamp: 12/16/2009 7:34:57 PM    Name: Jeff  Subject: Redfield        E-mail: rc51razz@yahoo.com
TrailReport: Yes the trails out of redfield can be ridden to get to the hill but they are not fun at all. This was as of monday night of course. I have no idea what condition they are in now.

Timestamp: 12/16/2009 10:19:45 AM    Name: Dana  Subject: Dave's report        E-mail: dana@sno-pals.com
TrailReport: Dave great trail ride report thanks keep 'em coming

Timestamp: 12/16/2009 10:18:30 AM    Name: Dana  Subject: Answer for Travis        E-mail: dana@sno-pals.com
TrailReport: Travis your parking plan should be good...everything is going to hinge on the weather the next 48 hours

Timestamp: 12/16/2009 8:08:02 AM    Name: Dave  Subject: sno-pals        E-mail: mxz600@twcny.rr.com
TrailReport: By the way........ GREAT job Sno-pals !!!!!!!!!!!!!

Timestamp: 12/16/2009 8:07:04 AM    Name: Dave  Subject: Trails        E-mail: mxz600@twcny.rr.com
TrailReport: Dropped yesterday[Tuesday] at around 10:30 at Barnes corners - Big water holes by trail to tuggers-rode mile strip-Horace fouard-culpepper to Salmon river rd.-All MINT with plenty of snow-Took Olin road to flat rock road -good shape getting a little choppy-then down to Talbolts corners-good shape-down the #9 road to McGoldricks truck trail-McGoldricks was awesome-flat -lots of snow -down to barrows performance-tried to loop up by ''the sportsman'' from that way but trail was closed[gate shut]so headed south down C4A towards -tt's hideaway-came across a water hole that you could get lost in-turned around-headed to Brantingham-trails were mostly good all the way -[Pine tree was closed]C7B was a little scratchy at times heading up to Brantingham...all in all the hill was in great shape!! I found that staying north on the hill was the best answer!! 114 miles-wonderful afternoon!

Timestamp: 12/16/2009 12:49:26 AM    Name: Travis  Subject: Little John Dr.        E-mail: travis042190@yahoo.com
TrailReport: We're lookin for a good spot to park and ride for this weekend. From what i've gathered, we can park at the end of the plowed portion of Little John Dr. and then the trails heading off to Lowville area are in decent shape... right?

Timestamp: 12/16/2009 12:28:10 AM    Name: Chris  Subject: Redfield > BC        E-mail: ctakacs@worcester.edu
TrailReport: Jeff, Thanks so much. mean, was it passable atleast? We just need to get to salmon rover road, or over to cedar pines...not looking to ride the trails in redfield...Just hoping we can get out...Hopefully a few inches will improve things...looking forward to hearing from ya Jeff...thanks!

Timestamp: 12/15/2009 10:31:24 PM    Name: Jeff  Subject: Redfield        E-mail: rc51razz@yahoo.com
TrailReport: As of last night(12/14) the trails out of redfield were pretty bad. Alot of washouts and water until you get to salmon river road.And when we loaded up at 7:30 it was starting to rain so im sure its worse now. Unless they get some good snow with the cold weather its not gonna be too nice.

Timestamp: 12/15/2009 10:27:39 PM    Name: trail hounds snowmobile club  Subject: drags        E-mail: donger1us@yahoo.com
TrailReport: we will be holding a snowmobile drag race saturday the 15 of january at the cincinnatus fire grounds registration is from 8 to 11 racing starts at noon for more info email me and ill give it to you

Timestamp: 12/15/2009 6:56:50 PM    Name: Chris  Subject: Redfield > BC        E-mail: ctakacs@worcester.edu
TrailReport: Hey guys, Just wondering if anyone has been throught he redfield system lately? Leaving fromt here on friday. I realize its a bit thin, per "redfield sno rec club", however hoping we can get by and head to to the hill and ending up at the BC trail system... Suppossedly they are calling for some decent accumulation on the southern sidd of the hill, so we can only hope!!!

Timestamp: 12/15/2009 6:24:56 PM    Name: JOHN  Subject: RACE         E-mail: MWISE9@YAHOO.COM
TrailReport: THUNDER IN THE VALLEY STOCK SNOWMOBILE SHOOTOUT Where: NCA Sportsman Club 11123 County rd 36 WAYLAND NY 14572 NCA Phone # is 585 534 5335 not open till day of race 500 feet track - 2 Lanes JANUARY 9TH 2010 CLASSES STOCK 500-1000 $ 20.00 A class REG 9:30 TILL 11:00. RACE AT 12 NOON 75% PAY BACK 1st & 2nd . ALL SLEDS MUST BE ORIGINAL.SLED MUST BE REG FOR 2010 NO CAN, PIPES, NO SPEED TRACKS NO COOLDOWN NO CHISELS TRAIL STUDS ARE ALLOWED.SLEDS MUST BE '' STOCK '' TRAIL HEIGHT. NO CHAINS, NO STRAPS, NO LOWERING. THIS RACE IS FOR STOCK TRAIL SLEDS NO MODS M&M Photography will be taking pics http://sites.google.com/site/mmphotographysite/home CLUB HOUSE WILL BE OPEN FOR FOOD AND DRINKS Sponsored by-M&M Snowmobile Repair shop 585 669 9745 The NCA- Sick bros The one stop fun shop snowmobile ATV’s Dirt bikes, BMX bikes parts and Accessories also 585 728 9030 Logie’s Lawn/Garden & Snowmobile Repair new & used parts & Accessories. 585 382 3340. MORE INFO CALL 585 669 9745

Timestamp: 12/15/2009 4:08:11 PM    Name: Dana  Subject: Winona        E-mail: dana@sno-pals.com
TrailReport: Todd,In the Winona area you can park at the lot at the CCC camp on County Rte 90, the intersection of Center Road (County Rt 13) and Wart Road, the lot at the intersection of Center Road and Bargy Road, and at the end of the plowed section of Little John Road. East of Little John parking area trails are fine, not sure about the trails through Winona and Little John. Here is a good website for Winona info http://www.winonaforest.com/trails.html

Timestamp: 12/15/2009 12:35:24 PM    Name: Todd  Subject: Winona        E-mail: tashley@sack.pro
TrailReport: Thinking on heading up to Winona state forest area and Barnes corner area. Does anyone know how the trails are in those areas? Also, wondering where to park? Thanks

Timestamp: 12/15/2009 7:20:40 AM    Name: Barnes Corners Sno-Pals  Subject: Grooming        E-mail: webmaster@sno-pals.com
TrailReport: The Montague A and B routes were groomed Monday. The Barnes Corners Connector trail (from the parking lot at the corners to Denning Drive) , the Worth Road extension and Tom Sawyer Trail have several wet, muddy areas.

Timestamp: 12/14/2009 8:14:09 PM    Name: Dana  Subject: Answer for Cody        E-mail: dana@sno-pals.com
TrailReport: Cody>>>> I rode 133 miles on the Hill today leaving from Barnes Corners going as far as Turin and Little John and found conditons were good to excellent. If the weather forecasted (cold and snow) comes through conditons for the weekend should be good. Saw evidence of a lot of grooming activity today. Did run into trouble trying to get from Smith Road to the Nice and Easy on the new trail...never made it down the hill into C-ville

Timestamp: 12/14/2009 3:36:40 PM    Name: Cody  Subject: Weekend        E-mail: cg7693@yahoo.com
TrailReport: Just wondering how the outlook for a ride this coming weekend looks....thanks

Timestamp: 12/14/2009 8:32:13 AM    Name: Tom  Subject: re:        E-mail: teamkawasaki@yahoo.com
TrailReport: Thank you for the information, it's appreciated, will probably try the trip anyways. Thanks again.

Timestamp: 12/14/2009 8:23:00 AM    Name: Lucas   Subject: LittleJohn to Flat Rock        E-mail: Diamondrev33@hotmail.com
TrailReport: We rode about 50 miles yesterday leaveing from the diamond 4 corners. no grooming done on littlejohn and a couple trees down across trail. one big pine. mad river nice until sno-pals end then alittle choppy. plowed roads to rector road then good trails. not alot of people using hand signals anymore. dont konw why. from rector to flat rock inn,then freezing rain so back to montague. all and all a pretty good ride given a couple weeks ago we had no snow.

Timestamp: 12/14/2009 3:49:20 AM    Name: Dana  Subject: Tom        E-mail: dana@sno-pals.com
TrailReport: Tom, we did not groom Saturday night. As of 8:30 last night the Sunday Montague Runs were cancelled due to temps (37*) and rain. Monday's Adams run is likely cancelled due to low snow on that end of the Sno-Pals system.

Timestamp: 12/13/2009 10:04:54 PM    Name: Tom  Subject: Tomorrow        E-mail: teamkawasaki@yahoo.com
TrailReport: Any updated info on the trails and weather up on the hill as of tonight? Was thinking about bringing my little cousin up and trying our new sleds out for a few miles to work out any bugs they may have. Think its worth taking the hour and half trip tomorrow late morning? Any groomers going out tonight or tomorrow?

Timestamp: 12/13/2009 11:40:45 AM    Name: Hollywood  Subject: BC Trails        E-mail: mdavison@twcny.rr.com
TrailReport: Unloaded at Center Road near Sandy Creek Saturday. Rode the roads to the truck trail which was groomed thanks to Sno pals!!. Trails were all good in BC area, only issue were 8-10 water holes getting us into tuggers. From there went through Montague to Flat Rock, trails not groomed at all. Rode 85 trouble free miles. On way back was stopped by sheriffs checking regis on Pitcher Road. Just motioned us by, but were stopping folks with last years tags. Please remember to stay rite on blind hills and corners had a couple close calls!!

Timestamp: 12/12/2009 7:34:05 PM    Name: Dana  Subject: Trails today        E-mail: dana@sno-pals.com
TrailReport: Clocked 60 miles today riding from the groomer barn at Barnes Corners to Montague for lunch then down to the Mad River Club East Gate where the Sno-Pals system ends and Redfield starts. Gary and Brian ran the Pisten Bully on a trail maintance run as we anticipated downed trees and limbs due to high winds earlier this week (there were fewer trees down than I had expected). We also opened the gates on the Ognibene trail (S57 between Waite Road and Horace Forward Truck Trail) As far as the conditions...typical early season riding...some trail breaking through fresh deep powder, some water on dirt based trails, some cowpaths, some moguls and lots of great riding especially on seasonal roads.

Timestamp: 12/12/2009 3:29:55 PM    Name: Smooth Operator   Subject: Trail Update 12-12-09        E-mail: brianpaddle@yahoo.com
TrailReport:  This morning Gary and I left the groomer barn with the Pisten Bully, drags, chainsaw and pole saw around 9:00 a.m. We cut our way over to the Tom Sawyer Trail and ended up NOT completing this trail due to 3'+ of snow and many unfrozen water holes. The trails will require time to freeze up and there are many trails that still have downed trees from the high winds. Your patience would be appreciated until we can get caught up and give everyone the quality trails that WE strive for, thanks, stay right and ride safely.

Timestamp: 12/12/2009 10:31:55 AM    Name: Bill Butler  Subject: Trail Clearing        E-mail: wbugsy22@aol.com
TrailReport: Its about 1030am and I am about to strap the chainsaw and gear to my sled and head up towards the corners from Adams to clear anything I come to. Wish me luck.

Timestamp: 12/11/2009 12:18:31 PM    Name: BernieMach  Subject: Trail Signing / Map        E-mail: BernieMach@coldentrails.com
TrailReport: The one thing I noticed on the Tug Hill / Lewis County trail map is Lat and Long markings around the perimeter. This makes it a snap to find your location with GPS coordinates. I wish they would do that here in our area. My dog liked the map too. He chewed off the corners when it was folded and wiped out half a dozen towns :o( - Have to buy a new one the next time I am out that way

Timestamp: 12/10/2009 11:04:59 PM    Name: Chris  Subject: Next week        E-mail: mxzxracer440@hotmail.com
TrailReport: Heys guys! Hopefulyl we get that 4feet+ they are calling for! I have decided against coming up this weekend, however I will be planning on coming up next weekend... Even with the little warm up and a possible mix on tuesday (but you never know, it could be all snow on top of the hill) would conditions still be ok? Want to make a weekend out of it... thanks guys THINK SNOW!

Timestamp: 12/10/2009 8:55:35 PM    Name: Dana  Subject: Snirt 2009 photos        E-mail: dana@sno-pals.com
TrailReport: Erick I just started working on the website earlier this week...I'm still climbing the learning curve. Updates to make important information current is just about done...getting Snirt 2009 photos posted is moving up on the list. Your patience is appreciated...

Timestamp: 12/10/2009 8:50:13 PM    Name: Dana  Subject: Signs        E-mail: dana@sno-pals.com
TrailReport: Doug if you get a chance please e-mail me some specific areas where you see a need for improved signing. If you can included details like trail numbers, road names and/or trail names it would help us address any issues. Thanks

Timestamp: 12/10/2009 8:30:31 PM    Name: doug  Subject: signs        E-mail: donger1us@yahoo.com
TrailReport: hello i belong to a club in central ny and i do 90% of the trail signing and i was up there riding last winter and i would like to suggest that you guys use more signs up there i really had no idea even with a map where i was going i sign our trails like ive never rode them before i just thought id bring this up

Timestamp: 12/10/2009 5:33:37 PM    Name: erick  Subject: off subject snirt        E-mail: bushyjrracing@yahoo.com
TrailReport: i know its snowmobile season but was their any photos of the 2009 snirt run and are they going to be posted

Timestamp: 12/10/2009 12:48:22 PM    Name: Tom  Subject: Early riding        E-mail: teamkawasaki@yahoo.com
TrailReport: There will be enough snow to ride, however just keep in mind, the more people that ride early going through the water holes and breaking what little ice built up there is, will make it even longer to freeze over. Everytime you go through a waterhole it will take twice as long for the water mess holes to freeze up. Theres low temps. in the forecast let mother nature do its thing, give it atleast another week, the base will be great and we'll have a great season of riding. Ride safe, smart and to the right!

Timestamp: 12/10/2009 5:21:54 AM    Name: Gary  Subject: High Winds        E-mail: gary@sno-pals.com
TrailReport: For the past 24 hours the Tug Hill region has been raked with high damaging winds. Several buildings have had portions and in one case an entire roof blown off. Trees are down as are wires. I can only imagine what the trails are like. If we get the snow that's forcast and you're riding watch for hidden trees and branches. You may want to pack a chainsaw along to help you get through. It will be the weekend before BCSP can get out and assess the damage. If you can ride ..ride with caution

Timestamp: 12/9/2009 4:37:21 PM    Name: Gary  Subject: Trails        E-mail: airblair7c@live.com
TrailReport: Just a bit of advise for all riders out there: We have not had any signifcant cold temperatures yet to freeze up the mud and water holes on some of the trails.Even though snow is in the forecast for the next 3-4 days, I hope we use our heads here and don't go hog-wild thinking the trails are going to be great. It takes time for the trails to be built up to ideal conditions. Everyone be safe out there!

Timestamp: 12/9/2009 7:23:21 AM    Name: Dana  Subject: trail opening date        E-mail: dana@sno-pals.com
TrailReport: Answer for Dan...The trail system on Tug Hill is comprised of both public and private property. Seasonal roads (public property) can be ridden at any time. Trails that cross private property do not open until the end of hunting season (this year that date is December 7th) AND when the property owner opens the gates. Sno-Pals never starts grooming until hunting season is over AND we have adequate snow conditions. We will post updates on this website as soon as we have more information. On behalf of the Sno-Pals grooming crew thanks for your support.

Timestamp: 12/8/2009 9:59:38 PM    Name: Dan  Subject: Official Trail Opening?        E-mail: ridinislife@yahoo.com
TrailReport: Can anyone give a firm answer on the date that the trails officially open on the hill? Are all clubs consistent or is each one different? It looks like Friday night into Saturday there could be a significant snow event up there. Thanks to anyone who can answer.

Timestamp: 12/8/2009 9:37:12 PM    Name: Shawn  Subject: Paul        E-mail: SDean@DSModz.com
TrailReport: Hey Paul that means we can ride together this year, and you can join my race team, "Team -Ty" (my son races mini quad).

Timestamp: 12/7/2009 2:19:05 PM    Name: Dana  Subject: Pig Roast        E-mail: dana@sno-pals.com
TrailReport: Yes the December 19th Pig Roast at the Groomer Barn will be held if there is no snow.

Timestamp: 12/7/2009 1:48:49 PM    Name: Chad  Subject: pig roast and trails        E-mail: cramsey34@yahoo.com
TrailReport: Will the pig roast still be held on the 19th without any snow? I am sure many were planning on taking sleds there but may not be able to. Thanks

Timestamp: 12/7/2009 1:48:24 PM    Name: scott  Subject: paul        E-mail: andersons0331106@hotmail.com
TrailReport: Hey paul, we are sorry to here of your unfortunate departure so to speak. Thanks for all you did the past years and I hope everything works out for you. Goodluck and Godspeed

Timestamp: 12/7/2009 9:28:48 AM    Name: Paul  Subject: Time for a Change        E-mail: paul@northernchateau.com
TrailReport: I’m posting the following to give everyone a heads up. This morning I received an e-mail that the BOD of the Barnes Corners Sno-pals had a special meeting on Saturday and voted to suspended my grooming duties. While this might not sit well with some I am ok with it, let me explain. As everyone knows the economy this year hasn’t exactly been stellar. We got extremely slow at my normal day job and I was on 32 hours for 5 month. Having 3 day weekends is really nice but when you have to pay the same bills at the end of the month it hurts your wallet big time. Being I am single and my sole provider, I had to tighten my belt (which included fewer trips to Tug Hill) and find side jobs to make ends meet. Also as some of you know I am a huge fan of drag racing, which is really my passion. This past season I started crewing on 2 more race teams (now I crew on 3). All that left me/ leaves me with less time to do volunteer work for the Sno-pals so it is time for me to hanf my key in and walk away. I will still be around and my NorthernChateau web site will continue to run 24/7. If anyone needs to reach me please feel free and hit me up at Paul@northernchateau.com.

Timestamp: 12/6/2009 11:36:05 AM    Name: ol' timer  Subject: that's        E-mail: poggeex@aol.com
TrailReport: Just realized Paul has to get the Halloween decorations put away and the palm tree and penguin up on the web cam for the mojo to work, lol.

Timestamp: 12/6/2009 11:31:16 AM    Name: ol'timer  Subject: trails        E-mail: poggeex@aol.com
TrailReport: Last day of hunting season today. Winds are swiveling around into optimum lake effect direction. Humidity's rising. WIN, WIN, WIN. BRING IT!!!

Timestamp: 12/6/2009 9:21:10 AM    Name: Dana  Subject: Trails        E-mail: dana@sno-pals.com
TrailReport: The Sno-Pals crew spent Saturday putting the finishing touches on signing and machine maintenance. We're waiting for snow and ready to go. The ground is starting to freeze up but areas with water will need several days of cold.

Timestamp: 12/5/2009 11:28:20 AM    Name: Scott  Subject: Frank Save The Sleds        E-mail: benz99@optonline.net
TrailReport: Frank, Unless you want rocks and mud on your new sleds keep em, home until the ground has a chance to freeze, then let the snow pile up, why put on 30 miles? The sleds will take a beaten!!!

Timestamp: 12/4/2009 7:57:03 AM    Name: Bill  Subject: Webcams        E-mail: tanner5sws@verizon.net
TrailReport: This is for Paul--I am considering doing a webcam from our place in Redfield area. Can I pick your brain as to what I would need -I am not familiar with the system or it's operation. Thanks. Bill If you can call me---201-232-4402 that would be great.

Timestamp: 12/3/2009 6:17:59 PM    Name: frank  Subject: riding        E-mail: frank@aol.com
TrailReport: hopefully these storms give us some snow, were from albany and 4 of us just bought brand new rides, first 8 inches on the ground and were on are way, were hoping everything goes well and we can come up sat night and put a few miles on the roads

Timestamp: 12/2/2009 12:55:21 PM    Name: Dana  Subject: Answer for Sean        E-mail: dana@sno-pals.com
TrailReport: Sean if you go to: http://www.northernchateau.com/northernchateau.htm and click on the "WEATHER" link you will find the temperature and other weather info thanks to Paul.

Timestamp: 12/2/2009 8:44:04 AM    Name: Sean  Subject: Web cam        E-mail: smc1019@hotmail.com
TrailReport: Just a suggestion but it would be pretty cool if you could put a thermometer on the webcam somehow. Just so everyone knows what the tempuratures are like because we all know how accurate the weather stations are. Even maybe put one in the yard but close enough so it can be read on the camera.

Timestamp: 12/1/2009 11:05:07 PM    Name: mike  Subject: snow        E-mail: madmxmike@aol.com
TrailReport: Does anybody have any idea about if this weekend we will have some good powder?

Timestamp: 12/1/2009 2:05:34 PM    Name: Kim  Subject: Memberships/Vouchers        E-mail: kimnhutch@frontier.com
TrailReport: Anyone that sent in a membership form and have not received a voucher, please email me (kimnhutch@frontier.com). I am up to date with my mailings... I will need last name and zip code (please - so I can find you in the database). Thanks :) Kim